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by yakovzutolmai
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: The Role Of Manna/Mannai (Area Of Lake Urmia)
Replies: 2
Views: 243

Re: The Role Of Manna/Mannai (Area Of Lake Urmia)

Finally, the "Phrygian" Sabazios, who may be more Hurrian/Armenian. Overlapping with Mithraism from Armenia. Mitra of the Persians emerging as an important figure. Wotan as oath maker in a hermetic role. Bazeus (of Adiabene), Sabazios, Zebedaios. Sons of Zebedee, sons of the tumult. Analai...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:49 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: The Role Of Manna/Mannai (Area Of Lake Urmia)
Replies: 2
Views: 243

The Role Of Manna/Mannai (Area Of Lake Urmia)

I have made a discovery that ought to be shared. A modern Assyrian nationalist source has connected "Monobazus" of Adiabene to "Mannai" the Hurrian people who lived over the mountains from Assyria, South of Lake Urmia. I don't know if this is remotely correct. However, Mannai is ...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The family of Jesus across the Gospels (origin of Mary as mother?)
Replies: 72
Views: 3186

Re: The family of Jesus across the Gospels (origin of Mary as mother?)

What we do know is that many Gnostics taught about a female figure, which often personified Wisdom. This figure was sometimes named Sophia. Also Apelles apparently consorted with a female prophetess. ... So what I would imagine is a earliest layer of narratives in which Jesus had an unnamed mother ...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The family of Jesus across the Gospels (origin of Mary as mother?)
Replies: 72
Views: 3186

Re: The family of Jesus across the Gospels (origin of Mary as mother?)

Mary's mother was Anne, but only by tradition. Anne's story matches that of Elizabeth, so I'd assume a common tradition. Elizabeth comes from Ĕlîšéḇa / Ĕlîšāḇa, meaning - ostensibly - "El" "Shava", "God is my oath". Doubtful. The Sabians have the word Sabi, meaning to b...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Early reception of the Gospel of John
Replies: 42
Views: 1321

Re: Early reception of the Gospel of John

As it is in GJohn, the very first time we hear about Mary and Lazarus we know nothing about them, but are told that Jesus loves them, and not just that he loves them, but that he has a special relationship with them. Where id this come from? I'm going to start a new thread to explore the issue of J...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Birth Of Historicity: Tatian -> Clement -> Catholicism
Replies: 0
Views: 236

The Birth Of Historicity: Tatian -> Clement -> Catholicism

I would propose that the strict historicity of Jesus was not assumed even with the writing of each gospel. My own personal hypothesis is that there was a historical basis for the emergence of Christianity, but this was relevant mostly to the radical messianists whose cult was crushed successively by...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26815

Re: Not that Lucian

Even wikipedia gets it right: Lucian of Samosata had sweet f*ckall to do w/ Xtianity. NO he wasnt Xtian, had no Xtian sect/followers, and had no Xtian Gospel as Origen states here for THIS Lucian. It's a three-part Fail. Ergo: NOT THE SAME LUCIAN! (There's no logical reason to insert his name here,...
by yakovzutolmai
Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Jewish Origin Story For Kurds; What Does It Mean?
Replies: 2
Views: 345

Re: Jewish Origin Story For Kurds; What Does It Mean?

These recent volcano obsession has given me a thought. The belching, pounding rhythm of a volcano sounds a lot like various modern technological contrivances, but to an ancient I'm sure it must have sounded like pounding on an anvil. The location of "Noah's Ark" South of Ararat, in Corduen...
by yakovzutolmai
Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 31
Views: 2228

Re: Just like nearly all the scholars of Gnosticism

Late Daters: Some one thought it up at the very last minute, wrote it all down, sent it everywhere immediately. Simples! (This is a natural bias towards the gratified instantaneous, for the Internet Generation.) We also have the bias of 20/20 hindsight. We encounter this information having already ...
by yakovzutolmai
Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 31
Views: 2228

Re: Time-frame, in Antiquity, sloooooows...

Backtrack. For most myths, oral teaching is probably a generation or two (30-75 years) before the script begins to circulate widely. Whichever (re-copied) fragment survives -in the future!- is not likely the oldest but rather the newest or from the 'early popularity' of the work's dissemination, sa...