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by dbz
Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:43 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 16
Views: 516

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

I mean the history of Jewish men. Is there a Jewish text anywhere which interprets the Torah to say once you are married a man can't lie with another woman. Well, inasmuch as there's no loophole for married men, the command to practice levirate marriage in Deuteronomy 25:5 would seem to proactively...
by dbz
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:23 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 16
Views: 516

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

RandyHelzerman wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:34 am
Peter Kirby wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:29 pm no 'sex outside of marriage'
Ideally, no sex inside of marriage either.

I speculate that valorizing celibate marriage by Marcionites is a thing...
  • Was my X wife a crypto-Marcionite?
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by dbz
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels, Epistles, Old Testament: the order of books according to Jesus Chri st
Replies: 26
Views: 17007

Re: Gospels, Epistles, Old Testament: the order of books according to Jesus Chri st

[W]hat does that mysterious ΧΣ stand for, χριστός or χρηστός? The first word means 'anointed' in Greek, the second means 'good', and it is widely assumed that Jesus Christ is the 'Anointed One' - yet even that phrase does not appear anywhere in the New Testament. John 1:41 and 4:25 both specificall...
by dbz
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:14 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 16
Views: 516

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

Earliest date occurrence of nâʼaph, naw-af' in or outside the OT ? "5003 - נָאַף" . greeklab.org . apostatize.png Earliest date occurrence of Aramaic גנא (gana' - sexual euphemism for an invader plowing your garden paradise)? "Microsoft Word - num.doc" . ericlevy.com . gana.png ...
by dbz
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 16
Views: 516

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

IMO the correct translation of the Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Commandments written in Exodus 20:13-15. English: 13. You may not kill . (murder) 14. You may not naaph . (violate contracts —with Yahweh or with your sovereign or with merchants or within families or etc.) 15. You may not steal . (thieve)...
by dbz
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 345

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

So if I'm understanding you correctly, you think before there was any idea of a Jesus on earth, there was first a Middle Platonic like intermediary power that at some point was said to incarnate as Jesus on earth? If so, there does seem to be evidence of early Christians linking Jesus with other fi...
by dbz
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 345

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

I have shown that mediating deities were common throughout ancient Near Eastern and Greco-Roman culture. Humans needed some type of mediator and model to show them how to connect with god/s or the divine. It's no surprise that Jesus became a preexistent being associated with Wisdom and the Logos or...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 345

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

We Are Being Transformed: Deification in Paul’s Soteriology (Walter de Gruyter, 2012), M. David Litwa: Paul does preach his own “technology of the self” enabling self-transcendence. In his version, however, the divine is not naturally within , but comes from outside and begins to control the passio...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 345

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

Now on the Platonic logos/demiurge: We Are Being Transformed: Deification in Paul’s Soteriology (Walter de Gruyter, 2012), M. David Litwa: Perhaps the most famous image of the tripartite soul functioning in a dualistic way is the image of the charioteer. In brief, the “spirited” and “desiring part”...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 345

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

I have shown that mediating deities were common throughout ancient Near Eastern and Greco-Roman culture. Humans needed some type of mediator and model to show them how to connect with god/s or the divine. It's no surprise that Jesus became a preexistent being associated with Wisdom and the Logos or...