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Petronius actually existed as a historical figure. The narrative regarding Petronius in the novel Quo Vadis is the author's invention. And likewise Abraham Lincoln of Indiana (born and mangered in Kentucky) actually existed as a historical figure. The narrative regarding "Abraham Lincoln: Vamp...

Jesus Christ seems to be a historical person about whom his future followers learned several dozen years after the fact, not from . . . oral tradition but from readers of the writings of a certain historian. And then later created a fictional historical narrative for said "a historical person&...

JarekS wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:41 am Early Christians . . . separated God from the Jews...

Who were the first christ devotees and did they honor a power/son/redeemer of the ONE?

Hebrews pre-70 / priority of John could be an interesting alternative in that scenario. And in the Hebrews pre-70 / priority of John scenario it is possible for true-Paul to proclaim his Lord IS XS the 50s B.C. Carrier does not dismiss a 50s B.C. Paul as plausible, but plumps for 50s A.D. Paul havi...

I think that who benefits from a false Paul (or a Paul post-70) are: Raphael Lataster, who writes: I do not assert that Jesus did not exist. I am a Historical Jesus agnostic. That is, I am unconvinced by the case for the Historical Jesus, and find several reasons to be doubtful. To compare these te...

Thanks for the info thus far. I figured someone would call me out for not mentioning Arthur Drew's The Christ Myth :p [...] I think I still need to fill in more for in the 20th century, esp post-WWII. There are some good points in this thread that I need to add, just sorting through them still. Wha...

davidmartin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:17 am [T]he Odes memorialise the cross and remember the suffering of it without a theological meaning, as would be expected of a group whose founder had gone through this and they wish to treasure his memory

Who has published on this viewpoint?

Christianity is a theological understanding of the past. It has no historical evidence for its gospel Jesus figure. Modern Christianity must always reckon with the possibility of having to abandon the historical figure of Jesus … he should never be considered its foundation. [hr] —Albert Schweitzer...

Nobody on this forum has evidence for a historical gospel Jesus . People offer theories, interpretations, opinions. [T]he Christ is understood [as] the Jesus of the New Testament. . . . He is the Christ myth. --Remsburg, John Eleazer (1909). The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidenc...

StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:43 am Is anyone here actually arguing that Christianity has nothing to do with history?

Per miminal mythicism, first century novel Christianity, initially has only a few valid claims per the lens of modern history.