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by dbz
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:14 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 10
Views: 375

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

Earliest date occurrence of nâʼaph, naw-af' in or outside the OT ? "5003 - נָאַף" . greeklab.org . apostatize.png Earliest date occurrence of Aramaic גנא (gana' - sexual euphemism for an invader plowing your garden paradise)? "Microsoft Word - num.doc" . ericlevy.com . gana.png ...
by dbz
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wives?
Replies: 10
Views: 375

Re: Seriously Are We Supposed to Believe that Jewish Men Thought the Torah Sentenced Them to Have Sex Only With Their Wi

IMO the correct translation of the Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Commandments written in Exodus 20:13-15. English: 13. You may not kill . (murder) 14. You may not naaph . (violate contracts —with Yahweh or with your sovereign or with merchants or within families or etc.) 15. You may not steal . (thieve)...
by dbz
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

So if I'm understanding you correctly, you think before there was any idea of a Jesus on earth, there was first a Middle Platonic like intermediary power that at some point was said to incarnate as Jesus on earth? If so, there does seem to be evidence of early Christians linking Jesus with other fi...
by dbz
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

I have shown that mediating deities were common throughout ancient Near Eastern and Greco-Roman culture. Humans needed some type of mediator and model to show them how to connect with god/s or the divine. It's no surprise that Jesus became a preexistent being associated with Wisdom and the Logos or...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

We Are Being Transformed: Deification in Paul’s Soteriology (Walter de Gruyter, 2012), M. David Litwa: Paul does preach his own “technology of the self” enabling self-transcendence. In his version, however, the divine is not naturally within , but comes from outside and begins to control the passio...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

Now on the Platonic logos/demiurge: We Are Being Transformed: Deification in Paul’s Soteriology (Walter de Gruyter, 2012), M. David Litwa: Perhaps the most famous image of the tripartite soul functioning in a dualistic way is the image of the charioteer. In brief, the “spirited” and “desiring part”...
by dbz
Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: Jesus as mediator and model: connections with Middle Platonism, demigods/heroes, and mystery cult saviors

I have shown that mediating deities were common throughout ancient Near Eastern and Greco-Roman culture. Humans needed some type of mediator and model to show them how to connect with god/s or the divine. It's no surprise that Jesus became a preexistent being associated with Wisdom and the Logos or...
by dbz
Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Real story of Jesus
Replies: 8
Views: 296

Re: Real story of Jesus

Petronius actually existed as a historical figure. The narrative regarding Petronius in the novel Quo Vadis is the author's invention. And likewise Abraham Lincoln of Indiana (born and mangered in Kentucky) actually existed as a historical figure. The narrative regarding "Abraham Lincoln: Vamp...
by dbz
Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Real story of Jesus
Replies: 8
Views: 296

Re: Real story of Jesus

Jesus Christ seems to be a historical person about whom his future followers learned several dozen years after the fact, not from . . . oral tradition but from readers of the writings of a certain historian. And then later created a fictional historical narrative for said "a historical person&...
by dbz
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel writers saw Jesus as an angel figure, gave him a version of the name Yahweh
Replies: 9
Views: 312

Re: The gospel writers saw Jesus as an angel figure, gave him a version of the name Yahweh

JarekS wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:41 am Early Christians . . . separated God from the Jews...
Who were the first christ devotees and did they honor a power/son/redeemer of the ONE?