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Irish1975 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:08 am So God tolerates the survival of these vessels of wrath, whom he has rejected for now, and made “enemies as concerns the Gospel.” Someday they’ll come back, though.

Topic under discussion- Israel's King deals with his rejection by a substantial part of His people.

Anyone else or just me?

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the delay; life at the moment dictates an occasional pop in rather than something more regular. I think I can see what you're saying- it's not about what Israel chose for itself, but about what God chose for Israel, which is rejection. To an extent I find myself agree...

@ Steven Avery Thanks for posting that material. NTW does cover Romans 9:5 in detail in his Paul and the Faithfulness of God (PFG), but what you posted looks at it from a bit of a different angle. @davidmartin A fascinating question! Perhaps a quote from PFG might help here: “It is the rejection of ...

I didn't realize you were touting NT Wright's theology. Nevermind. If you feel NTW has got what Paul believed about Jesus as God wrong, where are the errors? Specifically: Is it that Paul is not using the Shema, or that identifying Jesus as Kyrios within it doesn't imply divinity? Where is the anal...

Thanks for responding. This is interesting, because I read those texts, as well as 1 Cor 15 (see above), as saying exactly the opposite: that (for Paul) there is God (the Father), and there is also the Lord Jesus Christ. The Philippians hymn is explicit that a being “in the form of God,” and having...

Romans 9-11 is a great Second-Temple monotheistic exposition, telling the story of God's covenant to Abraham coming true, and this is done through the Messiah that there can be dikaiosyne for all who believe. Chuck in the King's College choir and you have the Nine Lessons and Carols. So what Paul is...

Surely the final set of authors believed God was omnipotent?

They were trying to tell a story- or rather two versions of the same story. Their line was 'God has a plan'. Allowing humanity/Israel to choose the bad option was an essential part of that story.

Paul talks a lot about it in Romans 5.

Agree with the Adam/Israel link. To the authors of the final version of Genesis 3, their approach would have been that represented in, say, Isaiah 40 (whole chapter), or Job. God says, “This may all seem rather unpleasant and unfair, but work with the idea that I know things you don't and understand...

A couple of thoughts on the OP that I hope are helpful. Bear with me! We do not know what the final editing sequence of the OT texts was. This means we cannot track dependence and influence between them. Indeed, it is crucial to pick up on the sense of narrative in the way things were read. Genesis ...

A couple of thoughts on the OP that I hope are helpful. Bear with me! We do not know what the final editing sequence of the OT texts was. This means we cannot track dependence and influence between them. Indeed, it is crucial to pick up on the sense of narrative in the way things were read. Genesis ...