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by Thomas R
Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1519

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

According to the church's own history (and this has always been the understanding) the Gospels were oral traditions that were written down in the era of Papias, which was obviously after the death of Paul. So Paul knew an oral tradition not a written Gospel, just like everyone else in the early chur...
by Thomas R
Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1519

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

Ulan wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:23 am I find it always funny how little many Christians know about the OT.
I always find it funny how little atheists know about the religions they criticize.
by Thomas R
Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1519

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

There is nothing in any of these quotes that show knowledge of a historical Jesus or of any Gospel traditions. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is from Leviticus 19:18. Paul didn't write the Pastoral Epistles. For from the Lord I received what I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus,...
by Thomas R
Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1519

Paul and the Gospel traditions

"Wells and others have insisted that it is just inexplicable, on the usual understanding of a historical Jesus, why the epistles never quote him." The Christ myth theory by Robert Price, p.35 What is truly inexplicable is how people who call themselves scholars never bothered to read the s...
by Thomas R
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The tempting of Jesus by Satan
Replies: 44
Views: 13319

Re: The tempting of Jesus by Satan

The interesting point here is that by the time the author of the Panarion came into contact with them the Marcionites had a three principle doctrine. The later Iranian marcionites then replaced the Demiurge with Hyle as a neutral principle. The Armenian Marcionite myth retold by Eznik has the Ultim...
by Thomas R
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Satan in the heretical Christian traditions
Replies: 12
Views: 4756

Re: Satan in the heretical Christian traditions

Do you have a thesis which you want to illustrate with these excerpts, Thomas R? The evidence is presented to falsify R G price's theory: It would seem to me that Marcion or any of the Gnostics would have had nothing to do with Satan, that Satan or the devil wouldn't have been mentioned in Marcion'...
by Thomas R
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:35 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Influence of Judeo-Christian apocalyptism on Marxism?
Replies: 3
Views: 4838

Re: Influence of Judeo-Christian apocalyptism on Marxism?

The Russian philosopher Nikolai Berdyaev on the role of Christianity in the Russian revolution: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.164050/page/n197/mode/2up https://ia801604.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/34/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.164050/2015.164050.The-Origin-Of-Rus...
by Thomas R
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:19 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Religion For The Modern Era?
Replies: 3
Views: 6701

Re: Religion For The Modern Era?

The Modern era already has a religion: Consumerism.

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The New Age Oprah religion is the mystical/esoteric form of Consumerism.
by Thomas R
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The tempting of Jesus by Satan
Replies: 44
Views: 13319

Re: The tempting of Jesus by Satan

The interesting point here is that by the time the author of the Panarion came into contact with them the Marcionites had a three principle doctrine. The later Iranian marcionites then replaced the Demiurge with Hyle as a neutral principle. The Armenian Marcionite myth retold by Eznik has the Ultima...
by Thomas R
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Satan in the heretical Christian traditions
Replies: 12
Views: 4756

Re: Satan in the heretical Christian traditions

Acts of Andrew https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/actsandrew.html 18 At this time, one who opposed him went to the proconsul Virinus and said: 'A man is arisen in Thessalonica who says the temples should be destroyed and ceremonies done away, and all the ancient law abolished, and one God ...