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by Investigator
Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 John 5:7-8 Johannine Comma and the Syriac NT Manuscripts
Replies: 6
Views: 1434

1 John 5:7-8 Johannine Comma and the Syriac NT Manuscripts

The quality, and age, and therefore thee importance of the Syriac witnesses to the New Testament manuscript text of 1st John 5:7-8 absolutely trumps the Latin Vulgate and any Vetus Latina (type texts) manuscripts and/or any secondary evidences, such as Patristic references. These, plus the early Gre...
by Investigator
Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

But is there any precedent of the final clause (the C-part) of 1 John 5:8 (Comma-less text) being used in the context of Peter and the "three tents" at the Transfiguration being applied in a allegorical context that Potamius and other's could have drawn on? Yes, there is! And (ironically)...
by Investigator
Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

A doxology of praise directed specifically to Mary with the Trinity at this date, also opens the possibility that the manuscript tradition of Potamius' works have been interfered with by Catholic copyists.
by Investigator
Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

I can see why Steven, you and TWOGG lads left out the immediate context of Potamius' words: "that we may try to prove to you the power of the substance from the figurative meanings that lye hidden beneath" ! How inconvenient for you, for Potamius to talk about "hidden" "figu...
by Investigator
Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Latin text of the Epistula de Substantia Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti edited by A. C. Vega in Opuscula Omnia Potamii Episcopi Olisiponensis, Escurial 1934 pp. 37-54 [Marco Conti, 1998, Page 151, Chapter 2:1-15] “Igitur, quia superiori tractatu Trinitatis excussimus lumen, corusca sideris clar...
by Investigator
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

This would be random mind-reading of no import. You've been doing this for decades, what's stopping you now? Nonsense. Why would Potamius quote Matthew 18:16 "Every verbal statement is to be established upon the basis of two and three witnesses" in favor over or instead of quoting the fir...
by Investigator
Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Potamius explicitly says ("omnium interpretabile dogma collegit" Chap. 2, LSB) he had covered everything he could manage to "gather together on all the doctrines that are capable of being explained" in "a previous treatise concerning the Trinity" ("superiori tracta...
by Investigator
Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Potamius was not avoiding hidden, secret, or underlying figurative meanings - he was using them! Potamius found in the underlying figurative meaning of the Latin version of John's literal text: "and these three are one" something he could use as a reference to the "three-fold oneness ...
by Investigator
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Instead of playing 20 questions, why not simply place online any pages you think are relevant. Instead of avoiding 20 questions :?: , why not simply read Potamius :sources: and any pages of Conti's commentary :goodmorning: you think are relevant and then answer the questions. :idea: It's not hard. ...
by Investigator
Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius
Replies: 88
Views: 21966

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Potamius was referring, not to doctrine that is capable of explanation about the Trinity (which is what he says was the subject of the previous letter to the "most beloved bishops"), but Potamius says explicitly that he was writing in this letter (LSB) about the figurative meanings that ly...