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by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 26
Views: 237

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

But the Talmud placed Jesus under Janneus. The Jesus lived under Pilate was a myth, according to that Talmudic tradition. Don't quite follow the reasoning here. The Talmud asserts that Jesus *actually existed*-in our historical spacetime--yet, because they got the dates wrong, they are Mythicists? ...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 216
Views: 2014

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

I am not persuaded that nobody has been surprised by this book. *chuckle* come on man. Nobody was surprised by this book qua an uncatalogued book. If it would be so surprising to find uncatalogued books at Mar Saba---why did Morton Smith even want to go there? Why would they even have given him per...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 26
Views: 237

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

JarekS wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:26 pm David Litwa should know that he is presenting personal naive speculation
And how do you believe that your own presentation efforts should be summed up?
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 23
Views: 296

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

It remains fact that putative "Secret Mark" surprised. And that the best paleographer should not be dismissed. Aside, if I am allowed the following, for which I could provide details. Many have heard the phrase, three kinds of lies, "lies, damned lies, and statistics." That foll...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 216
Views: 2014

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

OK, though elsewhere you have said you prefer to avoid hypotheticals. That there is a yet-unknown such reference is a hypothetical. To be fair. Perhaps you misunderstand me. I have not offered this 'hypothetical' as something directly relevant to the debate, as-is. I have indicated it as a possible...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 26
Views: 237

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

JarekS wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:26 pm David Litwa should know that he is presenting personal naive speculation
JarekS wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:26 pm today's biblical studies blur the lines between speculation and research
Do we need a section of "Biblical Criticism & History" for anti-'biblical studies' studies?
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 216
Views: 2014

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

He does not think it is from S. Clement. He remembers someone noting in some [monastic] publication that ... A receipt from the transfer, signed by Dourvas among others, has recently surfaced. The paleographer Agamemnon Tselikas discovered it in the archives of the Patriarchal Library in Jerusalem....
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 23
Views: 296

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

Ironically, the book by Stephen C. Carlson, often vilified in this forum, though it remains largely pertinent, actually introduced views of "Julie C. Edison, a professional forensic document examiner." Admittedly with less than ideal photographs. Scott G. Brown and Allan J. Pantuck bring ...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 23
Views: 296

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

StephenGoranson wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 am In my opinion.
Thank you for sharing your opinions here in this thread. :cheers:
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 474

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Conversation goes completely stale because you have nothing valid to say.

You keep saying invalid things, which are essentially the same things already said.

Then it's a "gotcha" if someone doesn't keep saying no.

Fun times in Ward 6, I guess.