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by Peter Kirby
Fri May 10, 2024 1:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

I'm wondering if we can be any more specific than 'first century'. First study in my first message : Roger T. Beckwith : there is strong evidence to show that the Essenes, the Pharisees, and the Zealots all thought that they could date, at least approximately, the time when the Son of David would c...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 11:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

I'm not interested in the calculations of Daniel 9. But what I do know is that the Jews of the second temple believed that time would be fulfilled in the first century. You don't have to be interested in my questions. You don't have to answer them. That's fine. I'm wondering if we can be any more s...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

Giuseppe wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 11:07 pm Does the answer to your question really matter?
Can't it just be interesting?
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

Third time: What are some of the more plausible chronological interpretations that would have been derived?

Clearer?
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 11:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

Maybe my questions are worded terribly, or maybe nobody wants to speculate on this. How was it interpreted? What are some of the more plausible chronological interpretations that would have been derived? Messianic prophecy. Non answer really. Did you ask how the text was interpreted ? Then my answe...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 10:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

Maybe my questions are worded terribly, or maybe nobody wants to speculate on this. Messianic prophecy. Non answer really. Exploits the ambiguity of the question and provides the appearance of an answer. The question is: What are some of the more plausible chronological interpretations that would ha...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 10:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

How was it interpreted?

What are some of the more plausible chronological interpretations that would have been derived?
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 14
Views: 207

How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

I know it's a sketchy site, but it's a quick and easy way to find claims like these. https://www.gotquestions.org/seventy-sevens.html Daniel 9:24-27 is a key biblical passage. It is the only Old Testament passage which refers to the Messiah as “Messiah.” Elsewhere He is called “Shiloh” (Genesis 49:1...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 6:22 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 150
Views: 20617

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Just imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. Suppose Smith transcribed it as an iota, commented on that, and the argument for the next 60 years hinged on that. Then imagine someone came along with this image to try to stir a controversy about the reading. https://earlywritings.com/forum/download...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 09, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 150
Views: 20617

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

There aren't many experts on this planet who study post-Byzantine manuscripts and early modern cursive Greek writing. I've already seen the initial opinion of a few of them. They said it was an iota. They have impeccable credentials and extensive publication records on the topic of post-Byzantine Gr...