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by dabber
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
Replies: 19
Views: 469

Re: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?

Hi there, hope all's well. My take is as follows: "Were the Marcionites the keepers of the original Christian faith?" No I think they were later on the scene. Still early, but not the earliest. They wrote the first "Luke". "(1) Was their faith represented by the original Pau...
by dabber
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 192

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

... the fact that even Matkan prioritists place now Mark in the 100/110 CE. They have given up to place Mark shortly after the 70 CE. Not me :D Mark 9:1 and Mark chapter 13 reflect the expectation of the Second Coming during the lifetimes of those then present . The end times were imminent, about t...
by dabber
Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space
Replies: 11
Views: 589

Re: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space

Hi Giuseppe,

I think the celestial crucifixion is supported by Rev 12. That Jesus is born in heaven and has a heavenly life. No hint of an earthly Jesus of Nazareth. The lamb who was slain is taken from Isaiah 52/53. The writer has no knowledge of any gospels.
by dabber
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the John the Baptist's importance to fix the god Jesus in real History
Replies: 3
Views: 115

Re: On the John the Baptist's importance to fix the god Jesus in real History

Hi there, this passage in John 1 is simply the author rewriting the earlier gospels so that John is *not* baptising Jesus. How can the sinless Jesus be baptised to wash away his sins? That's why the gospel writer is changing the story. He's making JC more godlike and less human. Also there's no birt...
by dabber
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Homepage ideas/suggestions
Replies: 1
Views: 90

Homepage ideas/suggestions

Hi Peter/All Hope don't mind the suggestions but thinking today with the latest scholarship on Marcion (discussed on this forum at great length!), you may wish to update the front page to reflect recent developments. These are my own ideas just to share, but it's your site, so I'm sure you'll do as ...
by dabber
Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:25 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: The Death of Christianity, Atheism and New False Gods
Replies: 4
Views: 285

Re: The Death of Christianity, Atheism and New False Gods

That article is silly and a misrepresentation of what he said. I've listened to some of the interview on LBC. Rachel Johnson and Richard Dawkins are both treading on eggshells not wanting to criticise Islam. Simple fact is in Western Europe Christianity is finished and will be dead in a few decades....
by dabber
Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Letters as a unique Christian genre
Replies: 11
Views: 393

Re: Letters as a unique Christian genre

Pauls "7 authentic" are (to my reading) real letters. He introduces himself, says his sources, ends with greetings, writes passionate arguments. Most of rest of NT is either anonymous or written in someone else's name to add more weight. I think they were definitely written to be read out ...
by dabber
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:20 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Logical errors in Christ Myth Theory
Replies: 4
Views: 239

Logical errors in Christ Myth Theory

Been reading Jesus from Outer Space. Great read but thinking there's some logical errors. Im not an academic so please correct me if wrong The myth theory has Peter having a hallucination then bunch of others, and the invention of Jesus much later, pushed into late 1st C or early 2nd C. But Dr Richa...
by dabber
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the Gospels got their attributions...
Replies: 10
Views: 363

Re: How the Gospels got their attributions...

I'm going to be radical here, and says it's possible Mk, Mt, Lk were the authors of the original gospels bearing their name. Or rather they may have been earlier versions of which they were authors. Irenaeus has no reason to make up Mark and Luke as authors. Cause they weren't disciples. Arguably th...
by dabber
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Archeology - proof of syncretism
Replies: 1
Views: 80

Archeology - proof of syncretism

I wondered if the answers we are searching for don't lie in the Bible but maybe? underneath churches. Examples:- Under the Vatican, Tomb of Julii part of the Vatican Necropolis - late 3rd C mosaic, Jesus depicted as Helios with solar halo riding chariot just like Apollo. Under the church of San Clem...