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by Stuart
Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Placement of the Gospels by the editor
Replies: 6
Views: 300

Re: Placement of the Gospels by the editor

The Western order competed with the final Canonical order, and is endorsed by many of the fathers.That order put the apostles (the twelve) prior to those of their disciples (sometimes said to be the seventy). So Matthew and John then Luke (a disciple of Paul) and Mark (a disciple of Peter) was the o...
by Stuart
Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The 115 1/2 Years 1/2 Months Between Christ and Marcion and the Acts of Pilate 21 CE Dating of the Crucifixion
Replies: 13
Views: 549

Re: The 115 1/2 Years 1/2 Months Between Christ and Marcion and the Acts of Pilate 21 CE Dating of the Crucifixion

144 CE is the date that seems used most often. However I have come to the opinion that the person of Marcion (Mark) is no more real than Paul or Peter or Luke or Andrew or John. I think Marcion (Mark) is merely the patron saint of a movement. Tertullian thinks he is real and dates his gospel to the ...
by Stuart
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My Lifelong Obsession with Against Marcion
Replies: 38
Views: 1660

Re: My Lifelong Obsession with Against Marcion

A lifelong obsession, but never looked at the vocabulary.
by Stuart
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: rgprice "1 Cor 15:5-10 is clearly an interpolation" --- I call BS
Replies: 25
Views: 1350

Re: rgprice "1 Cor 15:5-10 is clearly an interpolation" --- I call BS

First off this is a very incorrect way to read Tertullian's Adversus Marcionem. Only Book 5 is reasonably reliable for reading the Marcionite text of Paul. When he quotes Paul in books 1 through 4 he is nearly always using the Catholic text. And even in Book 5, when he is going through a book in Pau...
by Stuart
Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"
Replies: 39
Views: 2242

Re: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"

Tribe of Benjamin is Israel (Samaritan) rather than Judah (Jewish). Ben has wondered if son of Joseph is not meant to be the patriarch Joseph, son of Jacob called Israel, by Rachel and brother of Benjamin, father of Manasseh and Ephraim. This is the Johannine lineage of Jesus, as opposed the Matthea...
by Stuart
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT
Replies: 21
Views: 1034

Re: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT

The association of Luke-Acts with the pastoral writer (at least 1 Timothy) and the pastoral layer in Paul is not a new or wild concept. 2 Peter however was almost certainly written in the early 3rd century, as nobody had heard of it before then. Perhaps you meant the editorial layer of 1 Peter, whic...
by Stuart
Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 115
Views: 7000

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

mlinssen, You have not defined the audience, just listed a few differences (we all see those) in the narrative without really tying them to any theological camp or system. And no explanation of where they came from. The question was who was this directed, and why would the theology make a difference...
by Stuart
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 115
Views: 7000

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

These gospels were competing for the Greek mainland, which is Asian Minor(western Turkey) and Greece. How can you tell? This I admit takes some explaining. It applies mostly to Matthew, which is the earlier of the two. It more comes down to Matthew written in opposition the Marcionites, and the evi...
by Stuart
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 115
Views: 7000

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

I don't think you can say Luke and Matthew originated from the same table. They have very different theologies and very different vocabulary (e.g., Lukan favorite words). I have worked my entire life for global multinationals and IT consulting firms. I have rewritten mine and others' work dozens of...