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by Ken Olson
Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen: an analysis
Replies: 12
Views: 337

Re: Dave Allen: an analysis

(7) Doubts Eusebius would have used "surprising feats" to describe Jesus' miracles Whealey [14] explains that this is not a preferred description Eusebius would have used for Jesus, and therefore it looks like he inherited this from the original TF. In Eusebius’ Commentaria in Psalmos (PG...
by Ken Olson
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 48
Views: 2072

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

As Ken claimed himself, “ Eusebius either composed the entire text or rewrote it” (Olson, “A Eusebian Reading of the Testimonium Flavianum” in Eusebius of Caesarea Tradition and Innovations Ed. by Aaron Johnson, Jeremy Schott, Center for Hellenic Studies : 100) Ken favors one side, I favor the othe...
by Ken Olson
Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?
Replies: 74
Views: 74320

Re: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?

The passages in the letters in which the word "brother/s" occurs can imho be divided into three groups for a better overview. - 1st group: the word is used to address the recipients of the letter (Romans 1:13 "I do not want you to be unaware, brothers , that I have often intended to ...
by Ken Olson
Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?
Replies: 74
Views: 74320

Re: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?

What I miss in these discussions is that imho no one seriously tries to examine other passages from Paul's letters in order to better understand what meaning Paul might have given the phrase. Rather, historicists seem to assume that this phrase can be interpreted very easily by referring to the gos...
by Ken Olson
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 48
Views: 2072

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

mlinnsen asked: But if Eusebius is quoting Josephus on the second ocassion here, doesn't he only have it once, his "doer of paradoxical works"? Once in the Ecclesiastical History, yes, but he has other works surviving in Greek, so ten times outside his three known quotations of the Testimo...
by Ken Olson
Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 48
Views: 2072

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

If I look at what you quote, the point that Allen makes seems to be that Eusebius got inspired by a genuine TF, and used the phrase found there in his own work. Yes, that is what he is claiming. But he isn't just presenting it as a possibility. He is claiming to have presented decisive evidence in ...
by Ken Olson
Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 48
Views: 2072

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

In one place Dave Allen rehearses an argument Alice Whealey made against me on παραδόξων ἔργων ποιητής "He was one who wrought surprising feats.” This could be original and not touched because Christian redactors would have seen the word παραδόξων (paradoxōn) as denoting “miraculous.” Josephus ...
by Ken Olson
Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 48
Views: 2072

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

Dave Allen also lays out his theory on how the Testimonium is partially Josephan and probably originally hostile to Jesus here: https://davesblogs.home.blog/2021/05/12/testimonium-flavianum-reconstructed/ Much of it is not actually an argument per se, but an explanation of how the data would fit if ...
by Ken Olson
Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Melito of Sardis’ Peri Pascha and the Site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher
Replies: 9
Views: 500

Re: Melito of Sardis’ Peri Pascha and the Site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher

I agree that the high blown rhetoric in Peri Pascha may make firm conclusions difficult. Good. However But now, in the middle of the street and in the middle of the city, at the middle of the day, for all to see, is pretty clearly giving temporal information about when Jesus died, it seems a little...
by Ken Olson
Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Melito of Sardis’ Peri Pascha and the Site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher
Replies: 9
Views: 500

Re: Melito of Sardis’ Peri Pascha and the Site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher

Does Melito attribute a role to Pilate, his soldiers, or any Romans? He specifically calls it a murder, and asks after the identity of the murderer. I think this is the only explicit mention of Pilate in the Peri Pascha. I haven't read through it carefully to try to figure out if he's referring to ...