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by John T
Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:59 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]
Replies: 72
Views: 7988

Re: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]

Though I am not currently accepting homework assignments from Mr. Godfrey, You are the first person on this forum I have encountered who has objected to providing evidence for his criticisms on the grounds that the enquirer is imposing a "homework assignment". Oh dear. Don't forget about ...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

What denomination of Hebrew didn't think that ish here was a second god of Israel or an angel? iysh = man. You need to get over it and move on. Perhaps the better question would be, When did the Hebrews settle on a montheistic God, i.e. YHWH? :scratch: Here are just a few generic names for God in t...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguing Against the Church Fathers
Replies: 9
Views: 188

Re: Arguing Against the Church Fathers

Please give me reason to believe the current forum with the current participants is progress rather than a sign of the end of the world approaching. Perhaps it is time for you to read the Dead Sea Scrolls and find out for yourself what you already suspect. The Community Rule . 1QS IV :cheers:
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

Oh come on John T. This is just fucking stupid. There isn't a conspiracy at work. You're not this dense. Just move on. Just admit it. You have little to no supporting evidence. Your theory is no better or worse than crackpots like Richard Carrier and his mythicist cult members. I think if Marcion w...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

The Perseus site has put the Greek text of Josephus Antiquities from Niese's critical edition (Flavii Iosephi opera. B. Niese. Berlin. Weidmann. 1892) online. The relevant passage from Antiquities Book I is (highlighting mine): We can compare Patrick Rogers' English translation of the passage (whic...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

Indeed I am about to show in other works how Marcion did in fact use the example of the 'men' or 'Man' who visited and dined Abraham. In other words Tertullian is only telling us HALF-THE TRUTH here. Please do. While your at it, how about providing a link to the works of Marcion. I don't want to pu...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

I'm sorry but my mother in law isn't doing well. Can we move on and acknowledge that Tertullian's characterization of Marcion's 'Man' as a phantasma might be related to Josephus's characterization of the 'Man' in Genesis as a phantasma? If not why not? Sorry to hear that. Don 't let me take time aw...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

The Man who Jacob wrestled with is said by Josephus to have been a "phantasm" (Antiqu. l. 1. c. 20. sect. 2) the same word Tertullian puts in the mouth of Marcion. Not a phantasm but an angel. Jacob was left behind; and meeting with an angel he wrestled with him, the angel beginning the s...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

The Man who Jacob wrestled with is said by Josephus to have been a "phantasm" (Antiqu. l. 1. c. 20. sect. 2) the same word Tertullian puts in the mouth of Marcion. Not a phantasm but an angel. Jacob was left behind; and meeting with an angel he wrestled with him, the angel beginning the s...
by John T
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman
Replies: 62
Views: 1152

Re: Stephan Huller's recent interview by Jacob Berman

Secret Alias wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:41 pm Read Philo on Genesis 42:11.
Can you cite Philo on Genesis 42:11 regarding Jacobs sons claiming; "We are all sons of one man" that is, brothers from the same dad, i.e. Jacob?