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by John2
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 17
Views: 358

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

If we go by what church writers say, Mark was written by a follower of Peter, and I assume Peter spoke Hebrew (and/or Aramaic) and needed help with Greek (as per 1 Peter 5:12, which I think is genuine, and as Josephus did), and Mark's gospel would effectively be a translation of a Hebrew or Aramaic ...
by John2
Sat May 15, 2021 5:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew 5:21-48
Replies: 1
Views: 114

Matthew 5:21-48

Does Jesus oppose the Torah in Matthew 5:21-48? As we have it, given what Jesus says in Mt. 5:17-20 ("whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called grea...
by John2
Sat May 08, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The other rich man.
Replies: 15
Views: 567

Re: The other rich man.

Ben, I've been thinking that the gospel of the Hebrews could be "Q" and thus that it (in Greek translation) was used as a source for the NT Matthew and Luke. And I stumbled upon this paper by Sloan that argues for this and which I'm still digesting ("What If the Gospel According to th...
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 8:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

I just said Mt 5:17 wasn't there. I'm going by what you said above, that "The antitheses (Matt 5:17f) in their original form were said to be antinomian." And I am curious how what you consider to be the "original form" of Mt. 5:17ff is antinomian. Doalogue Adamantius 1.15, the M...
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

Secret Alias wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:14 pm I just said Mt 5:17 wasn't there.

I'm going by what you said above, that "The antitheses (Matt 5:17f) in their original form were said to be antinomian." And I am curious how what you consider to be the "original form" of Mt. 5:17ff is antinomian.
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

Secret Alias wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:01 pm Come on. Here's an example. The author of Against Marcion says Matthew 5:17 and 18 and other pro-Torah passages were missing.

Right, but how are the parts that you consider to be the "original form" of Mt. 5:17ff antinomian?
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 6:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

Secret Alias wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:59 pm Even in their present form they have an antinomian character albeit polished up by an orthodox editor.

How so? I'm just curious and not trying to antagonize you.
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 5:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

Secret Alias wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:55 pm The antitheses (Matt 5:17f) in their original form were said to be antinomian.

What's their original form?
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 5:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1734

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

To judge from Mk. 7 and Git. 57a there was a distinction between the written Torah and the oral Torah. Mk. 7:8-11: "You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.” He went on to say, “You neatly set aside the command of God to maintain your own tradition. For Moses sa...
by John2
Fri May 07, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The other rich man.
Replies: 15
Views: 567

Re: The other rich man.

What I mean is is that maybe there was something about an "other" rich man in the gospel of the Hebrews that was edited out by the NT Matthew or Luke, leaving only one rich man in the latter instead of "another."