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by John2
Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Many of the Jews and many of the Greeks
Replies: 5
Views: 100

Re: Many of the Jews and many of the Greeks

I think the question should be more about "many" than "Greeks," since offhand I can think of Gentiles who liked Jesus in the gospels, like the Centurion in Mt. 8:5-13 ("Then Jesus said to the centurion, 'Go! As you have believed, so will it be done for you.' And his servant ...
by John2
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 58
Views: 2666

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

Powell (citing Robinson) makes an interesting observation that Acts uses the word "ancient" to describe people and events that are presented as living and occurring half a century before the writing of Acts (which in my view was c. 95 CE), like 15:7, where it "is used at the Council o...
by John2
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 58
Views: 2666

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

The highlighted text is interesting to me. How could the author consider the church in Corinth to be ancient if it was only 20-30 years old? He refers to Paul as an ancient worthy as well. If 1 Clement was written c. 95 CE then the Corinthian church would have been fifty to sixty years old. I don't...
by John2
Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple
Replies: 8
Views: 4743

Re: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple

I disagree with Julian here though. My understanding these days is that early Christians believed that Jesus was God (in the guise of Daniel's "son of man" figure and such). Maybe the NT doesn't use the word "God" to describe him, and in that respect Julian may be right, but he i...
by John2
Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:24 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple
Replies: 8
Views: 4743

Re: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple

Not only do I not know what sock puppetry is, I don't know who Steven Avery is either (other than a few things I've read that he's posted here and people's reactions to them). To me this is just another round of you doing what you do: giving names to or questioning the identity of people you don't l...
by John2
Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:13 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple
Replies: 8
Views: 4743

Re: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple

Here is a different question about Julian. Observations on various subjects - III. On the True Reading of the passage 1 Tim. iii. 16 (1773) Johann Casper Vulthusen https://books.google.com/books?id=cBlhAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA70 "Not to mention his trusting to that idle assertion of Julian the Apost...
by John2
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:28 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple
Replies: 8
Views: 4743

Re: Julian's attempt to rebuild the Temple

Julian may be my favorite person from antiquity. I've let many books go but I still have Hoffmann's Julian's Against the Galileans and Ammianus Marcellinus (and maybe even Vidal's Julian ). I wish he had lived longer. Yes, he criticized Christians of his time, but I don't think it was any more than ...
by John2
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 51
Views: 2598

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

But setting aside the value judgement, you can take "weird" to mean not mainstream.
by John2
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 51
Views: 2598

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

They weren't weird Steve. They were typical Jewish mystics only developing tradition from the gospel and traditional Jewish writings. Well, we're all "weird" (as humans), and it all seems "weird" to me (meaning Judaism and Christianity), from the OT on down. But some Jews and Ch...
by John2
Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 51
Views: 2598

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

How do you know they were "gentiles"? Are you defining gentiles to include first or second generation converts to Judaism, who might still have one foot in the other culture? My impression is that most (if not all) Gnostic writings (I'm thinking Nag Hammadi stuff) were written by gentiles...