Search found 2704 matches

by Leucius Charinus
Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
Replies: 24
Views: 496

Re: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)

(1) “a figment of pious imagination” (2) 'accusations of fraud - the original eyewitnesses invented the graffito and that “in fact, probably no one ever saw it!” 2) The involvement of the papal archeologist Giovanni Battista de Rossi, even at arm's length, rings all sorts of warning bells for me. 3...
by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
Replies: 24
Views: 496

The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)

A separate thread to discuss the earliest purported Christian inscription. I have added two links to papers on the "Christianos Graffito" found at Pompeii (buried in 79 CE) in the 19th century. The discussion of the inscription has always been marred by association with far-fetched specula...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were
Replies: 98
Views: 9127

Re: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were

2. The earliest example of contracted nomina sacra on inscriptions Currently, I don't know whether this is true for Greek inscriptions. When I went through the Greek inscriptions, I skipped over the ones that were abbreviated, so I don't have a record of them. I also don't know anything directly ab...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were
Replies: 98
Views: 9127

Re: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were

2. The earliest example of contracted nomina sacra on inscriptions are the Dura-Europos graffiti in the chapel, dated A.D. 232-3 (EDE 1931/2, p.241) It should be pointed out that "contracted nomina sacra" is not a redundancy. All "nomina sacra" are abbreviated. Not all of them a...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were
Replies: 98
Views: 9127

Re: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were

"The use of abbreviations is, on the whole, as foreign to the Greeks as it is congenial to the Romans and Byzantines.” Do you agree with this, and if so, what do you believe that it means in concrete terms? The claim was made by Avi-Yona c.1940, a professional epigraphist, so I would tend to g...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were
Replies: 98
Views: 9127

Re: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were

Michael Avi-Yonah, Abbreviations in Greek Inscriptions Quarterly of the Department of Antiquities in Palestine (Jerusalem: Government of Palestine, 1940) As reprinted in Abbreviations in Greek Inscriptions Al. N. Oikonomides Professor of Classics Loyola University Chicargo. Illinois ARES Publishing...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 448
Views: 12349

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

The following is from the Jewish scholar Michael Avi-Yonah (1904-74) - Professor of Archaeology and History of Art at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. It seems to indicate that to his knowledge (c.1940) that the "system as described by Traube was not adopted for inscriptions before the 4th c...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 448
Views: 12349

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

Another abbreviation by suspension with the first four letters: https://inscriptions.packhum.org/text/313548?hs=26-34 CIL III 10189(12) Epeiros, Illyria, and Dalmatia : Dalmatia Χρισ(τός). And another one. https://inscriptions.packhum.org/text/262348?hs=334-342 IK Rhod. Peraia 222 ... Κ(ύρι)ε Ἰε(σο...
by Leucius Charinus
Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were
Replies: 98
Views: 9127

Re: Everybody knew what the nomina sacra were

So for your OP to be valid we have to logically assume that an underground (not necessarily secret) Christian education system was operative between the century of Christian origins (or the century when the ligatures were first commissioned if different) and the 6th/7th century during which time th...
by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History of the challenge to apostolic authority (esp Peter)
Replies: 9
Views: 359

Re: History of the challenge to apostolic authority (esp Peter)

Looking for good sources on the history of challenges to apostolic authority, especially to the claim that Peter was "the first Pope". I'm not looking so much for the current state of scholarship, but rather a history of when these challenges began and how they developed over the years. I...