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by StephenGoranson
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

No. Don't put words in my mouth. I have no direct knowledge of that man. What I do currently think is that Sabar's article--***which was vetted, typically via additional information, and approved by Atlantic editors***--is generally, relatively, a more credible and coherent presentation than yours. ...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 569

Re: Marcion saute

This, JarekS, reads largely as a recapitulation of your present-day experience in the "content business" for a "publisher," attemptedly retrojected to an ancient setting.
Do you have ancient evidence for ancient relevance of this model?
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

Of course I contradict your interpretation, but can't promise to attempt to counter all errors.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

Theodor Gaster. Remember him? Knew Smith well. His quote given to Al Baumgarten. Though B. Landau and G. Smith--among others--made a good case that the Letter was after Eusebius, though maybe, they thought, only within a few centuries after; but Prof. Derek Krueger offered that "no ancient stor...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

I have not written that Sabar did not go on about sex. Straw man stuff, again.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

Most of this is not relevant to the question that Sabar asked about the Letter: "Was it real?" (Sabar wrote than A.M. went with him, presumably helpfully.) Smith had a long time to compose the text and to put it into the Voss book, which, conveniently, showed no signs of ownership outside ...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

Some, not all, of this, not for the first time, amounts to straw man arguments, i.e., pretending to refute things I did not write. My work experience included some editing. A publication can make mistakes, of course. The New York Times, for example, failed miserably in its reporting before the Iraq ...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline
Replies: 54
Views: 619

Re: Starting to Have Strong Doubts About Ariel Sabar's Timeline

The subject of my post was whether or not Clement wrote the Letter.
I you think it was, you're free to so say.
But, bridging from your off-point deflection, Morton Smith was a bit of a specialist in pseudepigrapha.
Hm.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 569

Re: Marcion saute

Raising the question about scriptoria is helpful. Though some things about human nature may be long-lasting, it's also said that "the past is another country: they do things differently there." Back before the printing press, and "content providers," and so on. Some manuscripts h...