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by Secret Alias
Wed May 12, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 59
Views: 33970

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

The point is whether John the Baptist is 'real' or not. The gospel says he exists. Who cares. Josephus mentions him to but often in ways that seem ahistorical. Josephus also preserves for us a version of the fall of Jerusalem that is a strange mix of prophesy fulfillment written for a Gentile audien...
by Secret Alias
Tue May 11, 2021 3:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 59
Views: 33970

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

I don't think there was a John the Baptist. I might be wrong. But like most of early Christianity - who cares? It's not like developing a cure for cancer or something.
by Secret Alias
Tue May 11, 2021 8:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 59
Views: 33970

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

I am also saying that the system necessarily has a 'buy in' quality to it. For instance, let's suppose that John the Baptist never existed. There are arguments for that. The argument against the non-existence of John isn't that it is unreasonable (wow that's a lot of negatives) to assume his non-exi...
by Secret Alias
Tue May 11, 2021 8:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 59
Views: 33970

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

I just wrote a letter to the Canton of Geneve. Reading an academic book in French might well be the challenge I am looking for. Thanks!
by Secret Alias
Mon May 10, 2021 9:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 59
Views: 33970

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

As religious belief continues to erode in the West we at the forum become the audience for this information. It will change the way early Christianity is studied. The Bible no longer represents the foundation of civilization. More like Amazon. Is there even a "Western civilization" any mor...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 08, 2021 5:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1035

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

Jax, Ben and Ken have authority and expertise with respect to four gospel canon. But that's like using an car mechanic to help you make horseshoes. They're smart people but what they study only pertains to a later period- a specifically late second century period. The gospels previous to that period...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 08, 2021 5:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Replies: 65
Views: 1035

Re: Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldlines

The point again is that the antitheses were not original to Matthew or the so-called Gospel of the Hebrews. The antitheses originated within what might be loosely called an antinomian gospel associated with Paul.