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by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

Go home, you are drunk man The analogy is perfect. Ridiculous claims. Implausible plot. Idiotic character development. But everyone goes along with it. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-b4iPD9ToZ58Xzwnf8AKoYMvULRsRa5_jqkdXfQaK3KkjpxwfC23fdO7j8jBOdIUK4KKmU1w_INU_GosdnmAoeE...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

The proper analogy is porn. The idea that the proper number of gospels in the world is four and every heresy corresponds to one gospel and Irenaeus knows that the one gospel of the four that is Marcion's gospel is Luke is like. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgevcCgsWwre06...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 1
Views: 48

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, (Rom 1.1) Origen’s Interpretation: (5) ‘Set apart,’ he says. ‘for the gospel of God.’ Other passages of Scripture speak of the gospel of Christ, as the evangelist Mark writes, ‘The beginning of the gospel o...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

Moreover, taking up Paul's references to "my gospel" in Galatians, Marcion concluded that he used one written gospel" [Steven Wilson, Related Strangers p. 171] "What of his insistence that there was only one true Gospel, the book which Paul referred to as 'my gospel'? Marcion was...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

According to early church writers Marcion thought that the expression “τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν μου” in Romans (16:25) was a straightforward reference to a literary work: that is to say, Paul refers here to Luke's gospel. Beginning with Harnack, scholars have pointed out that for Marcion's purpose, the Gospel...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

I would like it if the Beginning of the Gospel of Christ Jesus text had al kinds of material that was omitted from the other gospel texts. 'The spirit is willing, but the evidence is weak.' Help my unbelief here. Does the idea that there was this kind of material in it have anything going for it? Ma...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 1
Views: 48

Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Romans 16:25 + Mark 1:1 "Then the Jew standing by him said to the people who believed that yesterday, and the day before, and whenever we were punishing this man while he was shepherding you, you turned away from the ancestral law, knowing nothing precise in what he said, as we demonstrated. Bu...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

I could post all of them but I don't want to distract from Peter's point. Bye.
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 428

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

Examples of Origen's cryptic referencing of Secret Mark. There are dozens more like this. It's always Romans 2:19 or 16:25 + Mark 1:1 over and over again: Now, certainly the introduction to Christianity is through the Mosaic worship and the prophetic writings; and after the introduction, it is in th...