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The idea that we should listen only to WASP scholars who speculate that Morton Smith planted the document and ignore the guy who ran the Mar Saba monastery when Morton Smith discovered the document when he assumed the document was always a part of the monastic library is the height of racism. If thi...

My opinion. Western scholarship never even considered these people as people. They look at them like stupid peasants who lack the sophistication to contribute to meaningful conversation. That's why Tselikas was ignored for the last fifteen years. Just WASPs are invited to the table. Seriously. When ...

Yeah sure. I thank him though. If it wasn't for the promise of his negative reaction I wouldn't have done half this research.

The context is heretics at Mar Saba. Kallistos is saying. The letter is ancient. The handwriting is from the 18th century. It was copied from an earlier period. But it was not Clement of Alexandria. This comes from the conversation between Quesnell and Kallistos Dourvas as witnessed by two different...

This account makes it unlikely that he informed the monks at Mar Saba of his discovery of an alternative version of Mark. Why is there always this parsing of words? You both do this. You're telling me that YOU KNOW that while in isolation is some fucking horrible monastery Morton Smith didn't turn ...

Seraphim is on the way to becoming a saint in the Greek Orthodox Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_26_(Eastern_Orthodox_liturgics) His day is December 26. Tselikas hints that Smith might have had help with his forgery. Could Seraphim's saintly status have been what prevented Tselikas fro...

Really? With you guys turning it into a gay gospel? There is going to be serious work conducted when anyone investigating is immediately questioned, "why are you so interested in this gay gospel? Don't you love the Church?" Been there. Done that. Dozens of times with the Church. You guys p...

And another thing. Let's use the analogy of the Garden of Eden. Until "Western speculation" about homosexuality and an agenda against Church slithered into the door of the Patriarchate with Quesnell everyone was cool with the document. The document would be available today if it wasn't for...

Who's left? Morton Smith writes in 1973 about him visiting in 1958 his friends the Patriarch and Seraphim, whom he knew in the 1940s, the people who ran the Jerusalem Patriarchate and the Mar Saba monastery when he discovered the document. Seraphim must have been immediately apprised of Morton Smith...

I am bringing up facts that few people have ever considered. Before I started this thread I had no idea that the whole Greek Orthodox Patriarchate accepted the document as genuine. Did you? You claim to have known that?