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by Giuseppe
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pillars of Galatians 1-2 as midrash from Pharaoh?
Replies: 1
Views: 40

Re: The Pillars of Galatians 1-2 as midrash from Pharaoh?

To my knowledge, this is the strongest argument to doubt about the most important 'biographical' fact of Paul, i.e. his meeting/clash with the Pillars. Paul as new Moses The Pillars as new Pharaoh While in Exodus, the Pharaoh is the quintessential Gentile victim of divine hardening, now in Galatians...
by Giuseppe
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pillars of Galatians 1-2 as midrash from Pharaoh?
Replies: 1
Views: 40

The Pillars of Galatians 1-2 as midrash from Pharaoh?

What distinguishes this remnant from Israel, as well as from Gentiles,is faith in Christ. Now this remnant is elected by grace ... in distinction from Israel (‘the rest’), which now stands in Pharaoh’s place as the object of divine ‘hardening’ Susan Eastman , Israel and the Mercy of God: A Re-readi...
by Giuseppe
Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's letters
Replies: 78
Views: 1870

Re: Dating Paul's letters

Interesting. En passant , I am thinking about Galatians 1, 2 as based midrashically on Moses' story and the Pillars as new Pharaon, who in the same time "is considered someone" and is a tyrant. As the Moses' story goes, Moses does some vain efforts to persuade the Pharaon, without success....
by Giuseppe
Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's letters
Replies: 78
Views: 1870

Re: Dating Paul's letters

As for Paul, perhaps I use a different terminology. But I see him, much like I see Mark (Marcion?), Luke, John, Peter/Cephas, Jacob (James), Simon, Philip, Matthew/Matthias and all the others, as a legend from the distant past, now a patron saint, claimed as a founder of a movement (sect). do you m...
by Giuseppe
Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul innocent or a liar?
Replies: 12
Views: 470

Re: Was Paul innocent or a liar?

You seem to ignore that the possible divergence I talk about between Paul and the Pillars is about their respective christologies. If the Pillars had a low christology, then Jesus probably existed. If the Pillars had a high christology just as the Paul's christology, then Jesus probably never existe...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Odes of Solomon 42 precedes Mark 15:29: the original "way" of the cross
Replies: 11
Views: 255

Re: Odes of Solomon 42 precedes Mark 15:29: the original "way" of the cross

Corollary: the cross was raised in the original myth along the "way" from lower heavens to upper heavens.

In OUTER SPACE.
by Giuseppe
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Odes of Solomon 42 precedes Mark 15:29: the original "way" of the cross
Replies: 11
Views: 255

Odes of Solomon 42 precedes Mark 15:29: the original "way" of the cross

So Odes 42: I stretched out my hands and approached my Lord: For the stretching of my hands is His sign: My expansion is the outspread tree which was set up on the way of the Righteous One. An alternative translation, given by Arthur Drews in a French translation of his magnus opus Christ Myth , giv...
by Giuseppe
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's letters
Replies: 78
Views: 1870

Re: Dating Paul's letters

The reversal process should be considered as equally probable, too: that the anti-demiurgism was original to Gnostics, and only later the rehabilitation of the demiurge happened gradually. This process is visible in the myth of Sabaoth and Yaldabaoth: the former is converted, undergoes a kenosis of ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's letters
Replies: 78
Views: 1870

Re: Dating Paul's letters

Again, I don't think even Marcion viewed the demiurge as an "evil" Satanic type of figure, did he? the Gospel parable of the two trees leaves no doubt about what for Marcion was the evil tree recognizable from evil fruits: the creator. At contrary, only late marcionism left some value to ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's letters
Replies: 78
Views: 1870

Re: Dating Paul's letters

There is no trace of Jews hating YHWH as an evil deity. It was probably a gentile thing. On the other hand, there are openings in the Jewish Scriptures for YHWH having a lower status than the "Most High" (Deut 32) or "Ancient of Days" (Dan 7). Judaism was part of the Hellenistic...