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I do not believe that Couchoud is discussing a statement from Alfred Loisy, 'Marcion's Gospel. A Reply', Hibbert Journal 34 (1936) 378-387 there. I do not know where Loisy may have said what Couchoud is discussing. At contrary I think that Couchoud is replying just to that article, since Loisy coul...

Ok, but the point of the thread, beyond the title, is that Ben C. Smith claimed that we don't have evidence of the Marcion's interpretation of the demons's recognition of Jesus as a wrong recognition, whereas I have shown the point in Tertullian where it is clearly said that, according to Marcion, t...

I see that Loisy talks about the Lord's Prayer in the his other anti-Couchoud book ( Histoire et mythe à propos de Jésus-Christ , p. 140-141): Forme de l'Oraison dominale dans l' Evangelion ( Luc , XI, 2-4), traduction Couchoud: Père, que ton saint Esprit vienne sur nous et nous purifie. Que ton règ...

And yet Loisy seems to concede that in the case of the prayer of the Lord, a modification has been made directly against Marcion. At least judging from the reply by Couchoud: I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost comple...

Thank you! It seems that the reason given by Loisy to reject the birth stories: It follows that the third Gospel in its original state did not contain the birth stories. ...is not mere anti-marcionite polemic, but the fact that according to Loisy the production of the gospels was not “a single opera...

I point out this thread as the thread that saw me more totally in disagreement with Ben C. Smith.

See in particular my last post that fixed my point contra Ben.

Mark 1:1 Correct. Mark 3:11 Correct. Mark 5:7 “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? correct that YHWH is meant. But what is put on the mouth of a demon hardly can be true. Mark 9:7 “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” unexpected by YHWH, to place his son against his le...

Ken, can you share the entire Loisy's article? Thank you in advance for any answer.

These two points about washing of feets, request of first seats by Zebedeides are already dealt by Loisy in his History and myth about Jesus Christ , but I would be interested to the Loisy's concession that the birth story in Luke postdates *Ev. If true, that concession would place Occam's Razor dir...

My point is that just as Matthew couldn't be so idiot by meaning litterally the vision of "all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor" (Matthew 4:8) and not at contrary as a satanic mirage, ...i.e. not really a true vision... ...then Loisy shouldn't be so idiot by meaning litterally ...