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by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did early Christians Worship Openly or Secretly?
Replies: 1
Views: 30

Re: Did early Christians Worship Openly or Secretly?

To me, all that negative hearsay remembers the accusations of anti-nomianism: if the Law of the Creator has to be disobeyed, then the sin itself is a tool of liberation. Philo accused in similar terms some anti-demiurgists of the his time. Someone has advanced the hypothesis that the same worship of...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the expulsion of Jesus by the Jews according to Hierocles
Replies: 2
Views: 67

Re: On the expulsion of Jesus by the Jews according to Hierocles

never to stay in one place for too long A possibility for that is that the Marcionite Jesus didn't have a human body hence it had to be always in movement. “Foxes have dens, and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head.” Also: could this brigand Christ be the rea...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode
Replies: 2
Views: 45

Re: Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode

The view of Mark as anti-Vespasian propaganda is able to explain also the presumed "separationism" in Mark: Hence the eagle and the dove: a bird descends and absolute power comes upon a son of God—almost the same, but not quite. Read in the light of Roman imperial ideology, the narrative c...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode
Replies: 2
Views: 45

Re: Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode

Michael Peppard would agree with Nodet about the title "Son of God"/"Son of Father" having ipso facto anti-imperial connotations: Peppard’s thesis — that this Gospel is depicting Jesus as a son of God in opposition to the Roman emperor who was then worshiped as a son of god — thr...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode
Replies: 2
Views: 45

Etienne Nodet on the origin of the Barabbas episode

Luke 22:70-71, according to Etienne Nodet , is part of the evidence about why a "Bar-Abbas" (Son of Father) had to be introduced in the Gospels to make Jesus innocent: 70 They all asked, “Are you then the Son of God?” He replied, “You say that I am.” 71 Then they said, “Why do we need any ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 24
Views: 491

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

The author thinks that he has detected passages, for example in Galatians, where Paul means a supreme god who is totally alien to Jews (=not expected therefore to be YHWH). Interesting. Any citations? For example, so p. 359: The statement made above that G probably distinguished between the Creator...
by Giuseppe
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 24
Views: 491

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

If Paul was preaching that the Creator was not the Father, then we have a pretty clear answer as to why Marcion was interested in Paul. I don't think that such an indication still exists in the Catholic form of the letters. If it ever existed, it doesn't any more. a curiosity: are you arrived to su...
by Giuseppe
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 24
Views: 491

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

My little contribute to any scenario that assumes Gnostics coming before any "Jewish"/Catholic thing is put in the following thread (it has to be read entirely to understand better my point): https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=113655#p113655 Essentially, the skeleton of any P...
by Giuseppe
Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the expulsion of Jesus by the Jews according to Hierocles
Replies: 2
Views: 67

On the expulsion of Jesus by the Jews according to Hierocles

Hierocles claims that Christ was expelled by the Jews, collected 900 men and committed robberies (Lactantius, Inst . 5.3.4). The Toledoth Yeschu claims the same thing, only it reports that, after the expulsion, Jesus collected 12 evil people and not 900 men. Now, it is a fact that precisely the Gos...
by Giuseppe
Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On "the men as trees walking" as a prophecy of destruction
Replies: 1
Views: 61

Re: On "the men as trees walking" as a prophecy of destruction

Mark 11:20-21:

In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”