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And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked By canons of historical criticism, I declare this vignette embarrassing. Surely St. Mark Church’s could not have been...

This movie sucks.

Now I know for sure Marcion wasn’t Jewish. He was a Samaritan.

Ken Olson wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:05 pm Klinghardt believes that there was an Evangelion before Marcion and that it is the first (i.e., pre-Markan) gospel.

What he “believes” is irrelevant.

PS - Just in general, it would be helpful to our discussions if everyone cited pages whenever saying 'Klinghardt argues X". It's a 1400 page book, and trying to find where he says a particular thing can be a daunting task if one does not have a citation. 🤓 Klinghardt frequently frames question...

It's an interesting argument. Klinghardt: The text-critical assessment of this passage, representing the said conformations through the Synoptic parallels, is registered in the apparatus of NA-27 through p) and expressly substantiated by Metzger (n. 73). Nevertheless the reading 'beloved' is attest...

BeDuhn makes a big deal of what he calls “harmonizations to Matthew” in *Ev. He thinks this is a knock-down argument against Klinghardt and *Ev as the original Gospel. And that there must have been an early Ur-Gospel, which evolved in two directions towards *Ev and Luke, each being contaminated in d...

Ok but first of all, the second bit of highlighted text was NOT WRITTEN BY ME. I’ll get back to you about the rest. Check, you are right. I can only blame my own fat fingers lol your question clearly and unequivocally is What is the basis for asserting that Marcion was an “enemy of Judaism and the ...

Garbage, garbage. Spew, spew, spew. Onwards and upwards. So all Marcion talk is garbage… …but there’s also your pet theory— as I would have it - that they (or Tertullian in particular) were/was working from a text of Against Marcion written by Irenaeus which argued from a Western text of Luke, Luke...

PS I am primarily interested in getting Klinghardt's arguments right and analyzing them. Maybe you can comment sometime on the argument from 23:2, which I tried to outline and clarify. An example: Klinghardt thinks that the baptism of Jesus by John was interpolated because of the coincidential conj...

My banal observation: If proto-Luke is only passed through the hands of Marcion, then it had to have received some anti-demiurgic bits. The hands of Marcion had to be even only slightly dirty. Do you think, otherwise, that Marcion was a saint man? Of course not Giuseppe. But it seems like you are w...