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by gryan
Fri May 27, 2022 5:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

Also, I'm schooled in the sort of exegesis that aims at discerning original meaning and authorial intent. What is your view of that way of reading Galatians vis a vis Mark? ... I just get exasperated when people think that the passage in Galatians settles both the historicity and the James as broth...
by gryan
Fri May 27, 2022 4:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

...If tension is found between Paul and James it's also found between Paul and the Odes "The members of my body grew in strength so they won’t be falling away from His power. Instead, weaknesses fled and it stood for the Lord by His will because His kingdom is upright O Lord, because of those ...
by gryan
Fri May 27, 2022 4:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

James is not the "thorn" in Paul's side but rather a lung disease Paul believes was given to him by Satan. Paul believed he had superior knowledge of the Gospel (grace through faith) than the Jewish/Christians who sought grace through works (James). @John T One of my main questions is Whi...
by gryan
Fri May 27, 2022 4:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

If James if the one who had these revelations, how does that square with the idea that Paul thought of him as a messenger of Satan, when he says "I will boast about such a man" who had the revelations in 12:5-7? How can the same person be someone Paul would boast about and a messenger of ...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 5:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

Hong Xiuquan claimed during the 19th century to be Jesus's brother based upon a visionary experience, but he persuaded enough people to believe him that he conquered 1/3 of China, more-or-less. Amazing! I had not hear of that but here it is, on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan ...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 9:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

Reading between the lines, I think I see Paul expressing doubt about the significance of James/Peter's visions, while "modestly" downplaying his own. "Sure, I could talk about MY visions, but I'm too modest to do so!" 7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abun...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 8:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

@ ABuddhist Re: "Such a thing, though, is not said by Paul..." What about Gal 1:16-19? That includes James the Lord's brother as belonging to the apostles, but as I read it, Paul also says that he discerned him to be qualitatively different, i.e. preaching a qualitatively different Gospel ...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 8:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul in the Psalm
Replies: 4
Views: 138

Re: Paul in the Psalm

Ps. 40:12, LXX κατέλαβόν με αἱ ἀνομίαι μου, καὶ οὐκ ἠδυνάσθην τοῦ βλέπειν · ...my lawless deeds overtook me, and I could not see... Acts 9:9 καὶ ἦν ἡμέρας τρεῖς μὴ βλέπων and he was three days without seeing I take the blindness reported in Acts as a metaphorical literary invention, but I had not se...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 6:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

More from U. Chicago prof. Margaret Thrall (International Critical Commentary, 2000, p. 812): "The description ἄγγελος Σατανᾶ suggests a personal entity, and the verb κολαφίζῃ the activity of a person (Mullins, Thorn, 301). In 11.14-15 Paul has referred to Satan's disguise as 'an angel of light...
by gryan
Thu May 26, 2022 4:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?
Replies: 21
Views: 396

Re: Was "James the Lord's brother" Paul's thorn?

Note: My interpretation presumes that "some from James" who influenced Cephas and "the Jews and even Barnabus" to stop eating with Gentiles came from "James the Lord's brother" (Mark's James the mikrou) -- not from the pillar James -- James son of Alphaeus. This sets up...