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by rgprice
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul as persecutor
Replies: 10
Views: 265

Re: Paul as persecutor

I don't agree with the case made by Taylor there. If we work from the material that we are most confident existed in both Marcion's letters and the orthodox letters, then it seems quite clear that the motive behind the most certain cases of persecution was enforcement of circumcision. In Galatians, ...
by rgprice
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"
Replies: 30
Views: 618

Re: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"

I would be especially curious about learning whether Jews during Paul's lifetime would have persecuted other sects of Jews - especially if the potential persecutors were Pharisees. I would imagine the evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls suggests that disputants could say vile things about one anothe...
by rgprice
Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul as persecutor
Replies: 10
Views: 265

Paul as persecutor

I've grown increasingly suspicious of the claims that Paul engaged in persecution of Christ worshipers before converting to become a Christ worshiper himself. @neilgodfrey has argued that the story of Paul as persecutor seems to be a second century contrivance, which I'm starting to agree with. What...
by rgprice
Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"
Replies: 30
Views: 618

Re: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"

Thanks Neil. I've discussed this with Ben C. Smith. He says that the reading that I've proposed is "not impossible", but would be atypical. However, he agrees that the phrase does stand out from the others and is odd. He says he would be open to the possibility that it was "not penned...
by rgprice
Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT
Replies: 21
Views: 377

Re: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT

@Charles Interesting. And quite right. That someone would do what is being proposed at least to some degree, should not really be surprising. This type of stuff was not at all unheard back then. To quote from Matthias Kingardt: With regard to this closely knit literary tradition, we also have to ack...
by rgprice
Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"
Replies: 30
Views: 618

Re: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"

A good question. I'll just cite some stuff from "The Origin and Meaning of Ekklēsia in the Early Jesus Movement" by Korner. In total, ekklēsia occurs 103 times in the LXX68 and synagōgē, 221 times. There are at least four ways in which the word ekklēsia is differentiated from synagōgē in t...
by rgprice
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT
Replies: 21
Views: 377

Re: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT

Just my perspective. My recollection is that Luke-Acts was a quite coherent narrative. No doubt different people will have different views on that. I highly recommend "Marcion and Luke-Acts" by Tyson if you haven't read it. As you can see, in what I'm presenting Luke/Acts is sort of the l...
by rgprice
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT
Replies: 21
Views: 377

Re: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT

@Neil I think the Gospel of Luke is a starting point. A profile of "Luke" as a writer/editor can be established based on that work. When other editorial issues arise in other NT works, we can then ask, "Does this fit the profile of the producer of Luke?" Based on what we see in L...
by rgprice
Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"
Replies: 30
Views: 618

Re: Philippians 3: "persecutor of the church"

I see what you are saying Neil, but nevertheless, I still think that this list: 1) circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; 2) as to the Law, a Pharisee; 3) as to zeal, a devout follower of the assembly; 4) as to the righteousness which is i...
by rgprice
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT
Replies: 21
Views: 377

Re: Proposition regarding authorship of Luke, Acts, Paul & creation of the NT

Yeah, I think we are generally on the same page Irish. I'm not convinced that "Luke" wrote James, but I wouldn't call it out of the question either. Nor is it impossible that "Luke" was more than one person working together with a common agenda, i.e. that "Luke" could h...