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by davidmartin
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 113
Views: 3631

Re: Gospel priority

I'm not wanting to dispense with the theory of fatigue at all, it's simple. We get a list of the examples of fatigue Then someone explains how they best show Markan priority which Goodacre has done Then someone else explains how they best show Evangelion/Lukan priority As a consumer I'd like a choic...
by davidmartin
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?
Replies: 7
Views: 248

Re: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?

i'm open to being wrong here i just want to be sure Hebrews "To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again". The idea that certain actions cause the mystery to be done again (negatively) is found here. Unfortunately I don't think this thought occurs in the epistles anywhe...
by davidmartin
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 113
Views: 3631

Re: Gospel priority

ok, this is the alternative explanation: * Thomas or something like it (I'm generous) is original * Ev which precedes Luke wishes to incorporate the pre-existing parables (which must precede the writing of Ev in any case) * Ev lacked the interpretation of the parable originally, the interpretation w...
by davidmartin
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?
Replies: 7
Views: 248

Re: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?

Baley good theory but the "do not ask" part are you sure this not representing questioning who gets to go to heaven/who is saved? this question appears a few times in scripture - because it mentions following of the law brings salvation in the 1st verse quoted, then represents the question...
by davidmartin
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 113
Views: 3631

Re: Gospel priority

Have you read Mark Goodacre's 'Fatigue in the Synoptics" or his introductory book: The Synoptic Problem: A Way Through the Maze, which has a section on the argument from fatigue? It doesn't sound like you have grasped the argument or why it would be convincing to anyone. You're just saying tha...
by davidmartin
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?
Replies: 7
Views: 248

Re: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?

I understand the confusion and what you must be going through - you have, after all, tried to make sense of Romans it seems to address quibbling over who gets to be "saved" within the community over various disagreements and the author is reprimanding saying that's like re-enacting the mys...
by davidmartin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 113
Views: 3631

Re: Gospel priority

Luke omits the part of the parable where the seed sprang up quickly because it lacked depth of soil. However, he still provides an interpretation for that part of the parable! Where Mark’s seed on the rock withered “because it had no root”, Luke changes the reason to be that “it withered for lack o...
by davidmartin
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Melito called Jesus the Father. What are some other strange Christologies found in the Church Fathers?
Replies: 3
Views: 149

Re: Melito called Jesus the Father. What are some other strange Christologies found in the Church Fathers?

the Shepherd of Hermas is in the strange Christology business, just call his toll free number "6[59]:5 The Holy Pre-existent Spirit. Which created the whole creation, God made to dwell in flesh that He desired. This flesh, therefore, in which the Holy Spirit dwelt, was subject unto the Spirit, ...
by davidmartin
Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:17 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ
Replies: 1
Views: 121

Re: Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ

the secret gospel has Jesus favouring a new guy over his previously chosen female disciples and mother. this is way more interesting than the naked part if you ask me. sounds like secret mark's saying 'don't listen to stuff to with them listen to us, we got the real info'.
by davidmartin
Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Date of Marcion
Replies: 17
Views: 600

Re: The Date of Marcion

It comes from Irenaeus, here along with Saturnil he's a very early founder of a Gnostic sect that teaches the laughing Jesus body swap (found in NHL Apoc. Peter which I took to mean it was Basilidean and prime example of Basilides). This stuff makes him appear a hardcore Gnostic Basilides. I'm findi...