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by davidmartin
Fri May 10, 2024 6:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 8
Views: 131

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

it seems that, insofar you use these words, you are unaware of the best cases against the authenticity of all the pauline epistles. I mean: the radical critics, Detering, Price. I do n't mean Bruno Bauer, even if he is the first of the radical critics. I am not saying that they are right. I am sayi...
by davidmartin
Fri May 10, 2024 4:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 8
Views: 131

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

i would caution bringing any 'Simonians' into this we can say something about Cerdon and co. but there's absolutely nothing we can say about an even earlier group the 'Simonians' for all we know those guys would be totally opposed to whatever Cerdo, or the other gnostics were cooking up (or to broad...
by davidmartin
Mon May 06, 2024 7:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?
Replies: 28
Views: 728

Re: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?

I don't want to get too caught up in the topic as it was a passing thought I had had while thinking about Matthew. I will probably start up a new thread and talk about it more there. For me Yeshu ben Stada can be fit into the Pauline cycle in the Marcionite canon. With him we have a good candidate ...
by davidmartin
Fri May 03, 2024 4:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Syndication
Replies: 11
Views: 301

Re: Syndication

i just don't think the church was ever that slick of an operation and spent most of their time fire fighting (what else is Irenaeus doing?) and it took centuries of grinding before they got that kind of power to do what you suggest. there's four gospels and they don't agree with each other. i think ...
by davidmartin
Thu May 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?
Replies: 28
Views: 728

Re: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?

that's an interesting POV and suggestion for reading Matthew - which is for sure concerned with the law.. on the other hand its tempting to suspect an undercurrent of 'spiritualising the Torah' is at work to 'spiritually fulfill it', somewhere some places in the tradition seem suggestive of that eve...
by davidmartin
Thu May 02, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?
Replies: 28
Views: 728

Re: Possible textual evidence that Mark came after Matthew?

So in the Gospel of Mark there are hundreds of parallels to the Jewish scriptures, and nowhere else in Mark it is said that anything happened in order to fulfill the scriptures, even though the events of the scenes parallel the scriptures. But in Matthew, over and over again Matthew calls out these...
by davidmartin
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazareth, like Capernaum, is a Semitic-language place name...
Replies: 16
Views: 553

Re: Nazareth, like Capernaum, is a Semitic-language place name...

the only problem with that is these are the birth narratives, which are likely the later parts of these gospels. so even if you're onto something here it could then be the gospels trying to make sense of the name, a bit like we're doing here! It could be 'Nazareth' as a place is another attempt at t...
by davidmartin
Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazareth, like Capernaum, is a Semitic-language place name...
Replies: 16
Views: 553

Re: Nazareth, like Capernaum, is a Semitic-language place name...

Samson? pffft. fluff to embellish Jesus's credentials maybe. or the most likely answer : Netser + Raz. Mystery keepers. Book of Daniel
na·ṣar, נָצַר
raz רָז

נָצַררָז
by davidmartin
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev
Replies: 13
Views: 495

Re: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev

Gnostics were based on creating their own content and not selecting the best writings: the most popular, easy to teach, adapted to a mass audience. They lost because they had to - they wanted to prove themselves as creators, charismatic writers/speakers, they did not develop a structure. Paul's Let...
by davidmartin
Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev
Replies: 13
Views: 495

Re: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev

Jarek, yes the gospels were ignored in writings known to have existed after the gospels existed (eg pastorals) and so too that applies to the earlier epistles, this is the way the gospels can be seen as being the earlier writings (or at least the 'earlier gospels, and their sources, are earlier than...