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by davidmartin
Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Social Context of 'Resurrection'
Replies: 6
Views: 166

Re: The Social Context of 'Resurrection'

The Odes can be read as saying the resurrection has already happened "I received the face and likeness of a new person, and I walked in Him and was saved." "Your hand leveled the Way for those who believe in You. And It chose them from the graves, and separated them from the dead ones...
by davidmartin
Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 30
Views: 591

Re: Logically...

I reject the limiting definition of an Ialdaboath Demiurge for ALL Gnostics, although it is a typus for flourishing Classical Gnosticism c.125 AD. I agree with B. Pearson (1973) and follow Friedländer (1889) , mostly: Gnosticism pre-dates Christianity. 1) The Logos Myth precedes Philo Judaeus by se...
by davidmartin
Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's relation to Gnosticism...
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Mark's relation to Gnosticism...

Indeed. He makes the most subtle yet intricate use of Scriptures. So subtle that from what I have seen it appears that few have been willing to accept what Hanhart identified in his Open Tomb that even the "tomb carved out of a rock" in which Jesus was placed is a "midrashic" pl...
by davidmartin
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's relation to Gnosticism...
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Mark's relation to Gnosticism...

Mark is not clearly written in refutation of gnostic ideas, however it can be seen as refuting certain 'Judaising' ideas. When it undermines Peter what it's telling you is at the time of composition there was a 'Peter sect' that held Peter up as it's model apostle and promoted following the law. Mar...
by davidmartin
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)
Replies: 23
Views: 1155

Re: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)

there 2 John the Baptists. Whether they are two historical characters, two literary inventions or one was real and the other wasn't - that's fun to think about One is a pious Jewish prophet with a baptism of repentance. Nice and simple The other is someone thought to be Christ and is a teacher who a...
by davidmartin
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 39
Views: 1027

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

Mark is based directly on Paul's letters, with all of Jesus' teachings actually coming from Paul i think that might be a step too far! maybe in some cases and as a layer on top but the parables are quite different in perspective and there's contradictions to be found with Paul to put it another way...
by davidmartin
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 39
Views: 1027

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

it is remarkable though that a giant chunk of the NT consists of Paul, and i think one has to include the ones that are Paul inspired, like the pastorals and Hebrews. Apart from the Gospels, Revalation and James it's really all Paul. 1 John appears very Pauline Yet we know the scanty evidence or awa...
by davidmartin
Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Clementine Tradition: Peter after Paul
Replies: 22
Views: 555

Re: A Clementine Tradition: Peter after Paul

the motif of an earlier false teaching opposed by a true later one is found elsewhere, independent of syzygies idea in the CH Like Paul himself is correcting the earlier James, and in Hebrews it's found "For concerning those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were ma...
by davidmartin
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The big question for me...
Replies: 25
Views: 1037

Re: The big question for me...

I wonder if we can look at the four Gospels and say that Luke is an appropriation of Marcion's Gospel and John is an appropriation of the Valentinian Gospel. Whoever made them, made them by appropriating these Gnostic works in a way that was intended to look as though these were the original versio...
by davidmartin
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John 8
Replies: 23
Views: 595

Re: John 8

Thanks for bringing this up. I haven’t thought about this verse in a while. Lately I’ve been collecting verses that are systematically perverted in modern translations, and (heads up) this issue really pisses me off so if you’re not in the mood for that… Hey Irish when you've finished collating the...