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by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Litwa mentions Markus Vinzent and Matthias Klinghardt in that videoed discussion . A search of the google book version of The Evil Creator for their surnames shows he references Vinzent's Tertullian's Preface to Marcion's Gospel , 2016, and Klinghardt's two-volume tome Das älteste Evangelium und die...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

that observation alone is a subtle way to attack "modern atheists" as ideologists à la Marcion. Atheists don't need to be compared to a religious person, not even if the latter was called Marcion. I don't disagree. And I'm not sure comparing atheists reading the Bible is comparable to Mar...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

1 Cor 2:6-8 is a marcionite interpolation, as proved, inter alia , by Turmel, hence that passage can't be used to argue for mythicism (because, if it was genuine, then mythicism would have been proved definitively, for me). They're not talking about mythicism. Besides, they talk about 2 Cor 4:3-4 f...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Gdon, the fact that both Carrier (or Dawkins, for that matter) and Marcion would agree about the conclusion (== YHWH is evil) is not a good reason to assume that they would agree also about the premises and the way of implying from the premises the said conclusion. Carrier comes to the conclusion t...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Following on from some of the things David Litwa said in the previous video, I think this 9 minute video is a good example of how the negative parts of certain passages from the Hebrew Bible were omitted as those passages were selected and used for the NT: in this case Luke 4:16-30, using modificati...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

p. 163 ie. before the two pages I posted above

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by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Litwa makes the same point after ~14:00 (to ~15:00) in the video below as he makes in the first full paragraph of his text on p. 165 above, without reference to Carrier (ie. without reference to Carrier in the video, at least up until 15:00) eta3: Litwa makes the same point about atheists & Marc...
by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

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by MrMacSon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

fwiw
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by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 21
Views: 840

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

A minor point but I'd say the grammar would be slightly different without the struck-out section (and without the anglicized commas) viz. - Romans 16:25-27 25 Τῷ δὲ δυναμένῳ ὑμᾶς στηρίξαι κατὰ τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν μου καὶ τὸ κήρυγμα Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ κατὰ ἀποκάλυψιν μυστηρίου χρόνοις αἰωνίοις σεσιγημένου 26 φα...