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by neilgodfrey
Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The hidden god of the Gnostics before Jesus?
Replies: 3
Views: 50

Re: The hidden god of the Gnostics before Jesus?

But the question is, what evidence do we have that there were groups who believed that there was an unknown god higher than the Jewish god prior to the second century? Thompson's The Mythic Past , p 324, cites the Song of Moses as an early account of how the "most high" god El gave to his...
by neilgodfrey
Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 51
Views: 2205

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

DCHindley wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:15 pm I also have the original five volume ET.
I believe I know the volumes you are speaking of but what does ET stand for? Pardon ignorance or momentary brain lapse.
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen: an analysis
Replies: 57
Views: 1728

Re: Dave Allen: an analysis

He raises an objection against your argument that Tacitus didn't read Josephus by quoting Octavius of Minucius Felix: Carefully read over their Scriptures, or if you are better pleased with the Roman writings , inquire concerning the Jews in the books (to say nothing of ancient documents) of Flaviu...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen: an analysis
Replies: 57
Views: 1728

Re: Dave Allen: an analysis

Ken Olson wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:52 pm Michael Hardwood, in Josephus as a Historical Source In Patristic Literature Through Eusebius (1989)
For those interested in following up Hardwick's book is available at https://archive.org/details/josephusashistor0000hard
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Turmel on the Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 16
Views: 764

Re: Turmel on the Testimonium Flavianum

Thanks to Giuseppe, here is the remainder of (for most part) a DeepL translation of Turmel's Life of Jesus. There are a few places where something incomprensible in my copy of the text was illegible to me and that creates some obscurities in the translation but I trust that these moments are very fe...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Turmel on Loisy who reviewed Turmel
Replies: 2
Views: 74

Re: Turmel on Loisy who reviewed Turmel

I am curious about the note of p. 107 of the Loisy's book. Can someone quote it ? Thanks in advance. Note 1 on page 107 of Loisy's Remarques Sur La Litterature Epistolaire Du Nouveau Testament. 1. Comme fait Turmel, IV, 112,au moyen d’un raisonnement difficile à entendre. Le lecteur pourra juger du...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 22
Views: 870

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

Trying to find the “center” or “core” of Pauline thought is about as successful as the quest for the HJ. I am not denying the presence or even the dominance of the scripture-fulfillment theme in the epistles. I just don’t think everything can be reduced to that, because there are fundamentally hete...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 22
Views: 870

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

Ok now I have a better sense where you are coming from. I am familiar with your interest in Charbonnel and other proponents of the "midrash" model of NT origins. I find that illuminating for the gospels but not for certain layers of Paul. Charbonnel, as you point out, is addressing the go...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism
Replies: 54
Views: 3223

Re: Dave Allen arguing for a genuine Testimonium Flavianum: a criticism

I pretty much dismissed this as a misreading of what I had written at first, but on second thoughts I think that, even though a gross misreading, it nonetheless goes to the heart of the question of how and on what basis we so often tend to naively read historicity into ancient accounts: Are you argu...