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by neilgodfrey
Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:27 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

My point has been that there is no evidence for the Pentateuch having been known in the Persian era. Well. You see. There you go again. There is evidence. I've brought it up during the course of the discussion. Not the same thing as saying PERSUASIVE evidence (where 'persuasive' is ultimately a sub...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

Now you can do what you do. Attack me for caring or considering Samaritans. Fine. But I think it is a reasonable concern. I am still trying to understand why you interpret my comments as "attacks". You have many times imputed motives to others here for not agreeing with your views, and I ...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:15 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

Now you can do what you do. Attack me for caring or considering Samaritans. Fine. But I think it is a reasonable concern. Says the one who has called me an ally of evil and lacking any belief in the concept of fairness or interest in truth. I have raised various questions attempting to zero in on t...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:34 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

Secret -- I have been trying to figure out why you have continually been suggesting I have said Josephus "made it up" -- that he did not have a source. I dismissed your inferences as silly misrepresentation of what I was saying, but now I wonder --- Are you saying that Josephus made Claim ...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:39 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

The question is, if Josephus's source was 1st or 2nd century BCE why does he think Jews and Samaritans were following levitical laws when first encountering Alexander. It is not at all uncommon for later generations to inherit erroneous beliefs about the past. Even historians have been known to rep...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:36 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

But Neil's original question or point was that Josephus wasn't using a source. He might not have been. But I think logic dictates he was. SA, I never said Josephus didn't use a source. You seem to have misinterpreted part of what I wrote way back here as saying he did not use a source -- what I was...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

Thanks Andew, Russell -- silly me, very embarrassing -- I went back to see what I was relying upon and see now that I was very carelessly reading my text and confusing the Hec with the ps.Hec in the opening paragraph. My apologies.
by neilgodfrey
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:16 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Elephantine Papyri
Replies: 26
Views: 389

Re: The Elephantine Papyri

How does one define "Judaism"? Is it possible to have a non-biblical Judaism? What would that look like and still be "Judaism"? I guess it depends on the time period. Whenever the OT may have been written, even in its presentation of events Jews were in the process of getting th...
by neilgodfrey
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:13 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

My research (in an unpublished article "Agatharchides, Pseudo-Hecataeus and the Sabbath") indicates that the entirety of Josephus, Ant. 11.297-12.10 comes from a single source, Pseudo-Hecataeus. German scholars have hypothesized several sources combined in this section (including a Samari...
by neilgodfrey
Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)
Replies: 194
Views: 2937

Re: Current State of Samaritan Studies (Hexateuch)

I think arguing that Josephus simply made up the story is self-serving. Stop your straw-man stuff. I never said Josephus simply made up the story. I have said repeatedly that he did not. So accept what I say about my own argument. He must have had a Jewish source from the Hasmonean period who wante...