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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 119
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Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
I am resting my case specifically on how Josephus uses the two forms of adelphonymics without any apparent exception that I have yet found I understand what you're doing on that level, but you haven't answered the question of how you know that the distinctions that you're making are necessary in yo...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 119
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Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
By ‘spontaneously’, I mean using the phrase where he wasn’t quoting it from someone else. In other words, the quote from Matthew isn’t Origen coming up with it ‘spontaneously’; he’s quoting someone else. Out of all the places in which Origen refers to Jesus, the only places in which he uses ‘called...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 119
- Views: 5744
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
I discussed them above (samples 1 and 2). I went through every adelphonymic I could find in Josephus' extant work and observed how he used them. In the case of (1) he introduces a new character (x), and identifies a relationship to some figure (Y), which can be unknown. In cases where the related br...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 119
- Views: 5744
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 119
- Views: 5744
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
- Replies: 46
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Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Litwa: I’m on record as saying that ancient people never argued that Jesus didn’t exist. And I stand by this point. But the Talmud placed Jesus under Janneus. The Jesus lived under Pilate was a myth, according to that Talmudic tradition. Peter Schaefer has discussed this at length, but it was also ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
- Replies: 10
- Views: 344
Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
So I found a few more references, all of which also go back to Eusebius (directly or via intermediary): Suda, s.v. Ἰώσηπος, iota 503 here is quoting from the Greek translation (verbatim) of Jerome's De Viris Illustribus 13. Jerome, Adversus Jovinianum 1.39 [PG 23.277–78] (reliant on either Eusebius ...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
- Replies: 10
- Views: 344
Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
So, I have been conducting some research on the James 20.200 passage (which I am working on a paper about arguing it is inauthentic). One thing I decided to do (because I can't find anyone else who has done it) is trace all the different iterations of the "brother of Jesus, called Christ" ...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
- Replies: 20
- Views: 415
Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
τοῦ λεγομένου Χριστοῦ in the extant Ant . 20.200 is in Matthew 27:17 and 22 : as τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν (both in the mouth of Pilate ; see footnote 43 below) Matthew 1:16 : as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 John 4:25 : also as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 which, in footnote 39, List notes is . a passage about Jesus...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
- Replies: 20
- Views: 415
Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
I personally think the phrase can be either confessional or distanced, depending on context. I also think that the entire idea that a Christian scribe would always go around using pious language when interpolating something is, actually, an invalid assumption. "Distanced" language, as Whea...