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by billd89
Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 6
Views: 286

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery

There are 4 Pauline passages that must be read together, since they reflect the same Marcionite/Gnostic ideas in almost identical language. Paul predates Marcion by close to 100 yrs. Marcion was a librarian, a book collector (and had many scribes working for him), but he is not the originator of Gn...
by billd89
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?
Replies: 4
Views: 249

Re: Embarrassing!

Why assume that? Jesus as magic-user trained in Egypt is inferior from a Christian religious perspective to Jesus as YHWH's appointed Son/Prophet/Avatar/Messiah, surely. Apollos is identified as Alexandrian, and Basilides + Valentinus + etc. are typically identified that way, also. One imagines it ...
by billd89
Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?
Replies: 4
Views: 249

More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?

Continuing a point from another thread: If -- following one theory, that The True Doctrine dates c.125 AD -- Celsum got his information partly from Jewish prophets in Phoenicia, then Celsum was referring to the same decade and area in & on which Philo of Byblos (c.125 AD) wrote. Celsum knowing t...
by billd89
Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Lack of Divine Foresight
Replies: 8
Views: 375

Against Egyptian Determinism?

Interesting . How can God persuade a free creature to love and to serve him without constraint? This call to choose life rather than death is also strongly attested in the Deuteronomic tradition and in the Wisdom literature. Far from representing a secondary concern, the issue of human free will an...
by billd89
Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Lack of Divine Foresight
Replies: 8
Views: 375

The Doctrine of Free Will, Roman Catholic Interpretation

You mean the Hellenistic Jewish explanation, I think. I am focusing on the Judeo-Pythagorean, in which Heimarmene is still operative. For Gnostics: The Father is apart from Creation, the Demiurge takes the blame - then they turned him into a Cruel God. In the Poimandres , the Design Flaw is the appe...
by billd89
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:02 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: 'Helios' as a Hellenistic Jewish God?
Replies: 0
Views: 233

'Helios' as a Hellenistic Jewish God?

Trying to establish a coherence to the lineage here. Here is the (3rd C? I think its older) fresco De Julli: Sol Invinctus, called Christos, in the same quadriga w/ same horses as in frescos of Israeli synagogues. Same-same! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Christus_Sol_Invictus.j...
by billd89
Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is it correct to talk about a Gospel legend?
Replies: 3
Views: 184

This Kind of Post Triggers My OCD lol

A story about a person who certainly lived (e.g. Geo. Washington and the Cherry Tree) can be "legendary": True OR False. A story about a mythical character is only legendary. All of the Bible is legendary , I believe. That doesn't necessarily equate to False in all the details, however. Th...
by billd89
Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:55 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Alexandria-Relevant 1st C AD Timeline (subject-to-change)
Replies: 4
Views: 305

Re: Alexandria-Relevant 1st C AD Timeline

Yes. It is. (The scholarship around that, supposing Apollos was a real person, etc. I have taken at face value.)
We start with what we've got.
by billd89
Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Where Does the Christos Myth come from?
Replies: 3
Views: 241

Where Does the Christos Myth come from?

Jesus either a) antedates or b) postdates the Christos Myth. Or c) there is only Jesus = Christos, the Xian Assumption. I believe b) is correct, as I've posted in so many other threads/replies. And 'because Jesus comes later', it's fair to ask where the (perhaps 'gnostic') Christos Myth originates. ...