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by billd89
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 56
Views: 25127

Re: The Identity of Origen's "Lucian"

Lucian's Celsus (perhaps partly distinct from a 'literary construct" suggested by Clay pp. 3440-1?) may not have been a committed Epicurean. At the (later?) time of writing of Alethes Logos, Celsus may not (any longer?) have been a committed Epicurean (as Origen guessed) or may have made a rhe...
by billd89
Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

Re: Time-frame, in Antiquity, sloooooows...

by the time smthg is recorded in script its been in existence orally a generation or two earlier. What evidence or what models or what exemplars do you point to as models to justify this claim? [I wrote:]"I don't buy into all this Late Dating; by the time smthg is recorded in script its been i...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

So many insights! Where to begin?

Sikh-like Egyptian Jews who haven't fully adopted Hasmonean doctrinal innovations. Exactly this. But I cannot prove it. There is Alexandria, then there's Leontopolis. The latter is an independent community. I think, deliberately left out of historical treatment. The hypothesis is that with Caesar's...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

Re: Dating

Again, I posit the return of the Oniads to Judea under Herod, which catalyzes the Christos cult. Marked by its violence. However, later Christianity probably invoking existing Judaic and Greek esoterica to steer the cult's forms towards a more pacifistic doctrine. 1)The Oniade warriors had nothing ...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Early reception of the Gospel of John
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: Redux

In the second and third centuries, Roman Christians were embroiled in their opposition to the so-called Gnostic heresies. I still don't follow your logic. Gnosticism was all over southern France - it was 3-5 generations older in Egypt and Syria. Irenaeus (170 AD) is condemning literary "heresi...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

Musical Interlude

Heh - whatever.
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

What's What

hence, please, if you want to contribute to my threads, respect my inclination. ;) As far as I can tell, NO that is not the way the Forum works. You post a vast array and jumble of peculiar notions (I'm being VERY charitable here), but you certainly don't control the discourse. In short: 1) no one ...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Early reception of the Gospel of John
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: Early reception, or Late Dating

In the second and third centuries, Roman Christians were embroiled in their opposition to the so-called Gnostic heresies. I don't follow your logic. Group X is intensely battling the "heresies" of Groups Y,Z in 140 AD. Doesn't this presuppose that Group X already HAS an ideology to defend...
by billd89
Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Witulski's view about Revelation
Replies: 25
Views: 1625

Re: Christos Replaces Logos

this means that the theology of redemption by sacrifical death of the Son ...is ... Jewish in essence, but born in reaction to a previous theology of the salvific Revealer. The Christos (viz. Jesus) replaced the Logos (viz. Melchizedek) Doctrine as a hot trend in Diaspora synagogues c.55-75 AD, yes...
by billd89
Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: ἔσω ἄνθρωπος
Replies: 2
Views: 5804

Re: Hermes = ἄνθρωπος?

... In the Naassene document we read of an αρχάνθρωπος called Adamas, who is to be identified with the Greek Hermes. Now Hermes is the Logos , the ερμηνευς και δημιουργός of all things that were and are and shall be. Moreover, the earth produced an image of this αρχάνθρωπος, a second Man whom the n...