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by Baley
Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dujardin on John the Baptist, Suetonius and a mythicist called Papias
Replies: 7
Views: 380

Re: Dujardin on John the Baptist, Suetonius and a mythicist called Papias

I share willingly at moment the final paragraph of Dujardin's book On raconte maintenant que Jésus n'est pas le dieu mort et ressuscité [...] mais qu'i la eu une carrière humaine, des aventures humaines, [...] Oh! ce Jésus venu en chair, ce Jésus enseignant, ne contredit pas le Jésus eschatologique...
by Baley
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dujardin on John the Baptist, Suetonius and a mythicist called Papias
Replies: 7
Views: 380

Re: Dujardin on John the Baptist, Suetonius and a mythicist called Papias

Those observations by Dujardin pique my curiosity. It's a pity l'Apotre en face des Apotres can't be found online. I've read Couchoud's Jésus: le dieu fait homme and his Jésus Barabbas. Your Stephan Hoebeeck's Jésus, about which you have posted in another thread, looks like another interesting Frenc...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

Herodotus in his Histories relates the following: The temple of Bêl, the Babylonian Zeus [...] was still in existence in my time. It has a solid central tower, one stadium square, with a second erected on top of it and then a third, and so on up to eight. All eight towers can be climbed by a spiral ...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

I'm having trouble finding the tower motif anywhere before Joseph and Asenath, and Simonian writings. I assume they arise out of a common tradition. Medieval motifs so successfully employ the tower as the metaphorical home of the sacred feminine, so I'm surprised I'm having trouble finding it as an...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

The impression this text gives is that Christianity might originally have been designed to integrate with the existing mysteries but if that was ever the intent it didn't catch on, but whatever came later perhaps that was the original intent, unlikely as that might appear. Maybe Christianity was no...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

The tower/pillar: And when these things were said, the roof was opened, and a bright star descended and stood above the pillar of Pege, and a voice was heard to this effect: Sovereign Pege, the mighty Son has sent me to make the announcement to you, and at the same time to do you service in parturi...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

It seems to me that religions and mythologies never evolve in a vacuum or ex nihilo. Hence it is only a natural observation that religions share some concepts and outward appearances. There is some reciprocacy but that doesn't mean that all (Eastern) religions derive from a universal root or ur-theo...
by Baley
Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

FYI In the Syriac version of Clementines Helena aka Luna is called Sarai (the wife of Abraham before being renamed Sarah by God). Sarai/Sarah means princess That's an interesting addition. For your quote on Pege, see https://books.google.nl/books?id=Fp8xDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=%22M...
by Baley
Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?
Replies: 28
Views: 848

Re: Helena of Adiabene As The Magdalene - The Tower Motif In Mythology?

Obviously, Helen/Sophia is at least partly syncretized with the Moon Goddess. Please give us a citation on this assertion. Other than the Pyramids and Ziggurats, there weren't towers of great size until the Hellenistic period. A simple check on Wikipedia shows otherwise. Of course there were towers...