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by vocesanticae
Mon May 29, 2023 5:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Ultimate Question With Patristic Commentary on the Marcionite Canon
Replies: 9
Views: 193

Re: The Ultimate Question With Patristic Commentary on the Marcionite Canon

Yet Tertullian and Epiphanius cite very minor textual differences, most being attributable to Western readings. That's grossly inaccurate, as a quantitative analysis quickly reveals. Epiphanius and Tertullian together attest to over 4000 words of material in canonical Luke being missing from Marcio...
by vocesanticae
Mon May 29, 2023 8:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
Replies: 46
Views: 635

Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis

This project will take time. I take Ben Smith's notes as my point of departure here. Expect edits to each of these posts to happen over time as I work on it. Eventually, expect some new posts after the initial editing is done. I have, up until today, studiously avoided both the synoptic problem and...
by vocesanticae
Sat May 27, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A middle way between Vinzent and Klinghardt
Replies: 5
Views: 157

Re: A middle way between Vinzent and Klinghardt

Kunigunde has advanced the suspicion that Klinghardt, not being able to prove the Marcionite priority over Luke (too much 'Jewish' sounds the proto-Luke), has given up to the assumption that proto-Luke was written by Marcion, to conclude rather that the Evangelion was only adopted by Marcion. Kling...
by vocesanticae
Sat May 27, 2023 5:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Data Science and the Gospels
Replies: 34
Views: 793

Re: Data Science and the Gospels

Thank you to MrMacSon for the clarifying references. Both the Apostolos and Evangelion tend toward this simpler monotheism, in contrast with some of the proto-trinitarian tendencies seen in the canonical redactions. For further background on Vinzent's views, I'd suggest his chapter on "Marcion ...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 12:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Data Science and the Gospels
Replies: 34
Views: 793

Re: Data Science and the Gospels

That's a great catch. You should email your idea to Vinzent to see if he will consider including that observation in his footnote on the verse. In my work on the Evangelion, I've noticed that in many places, T mentions a given verse several times, once prior to its running sequence in the commentary...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 12:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Data Science and the Gospels
Replies: 34
Views: 793

Re: Data Science and the Gospels

My English translation is of Vinzent's forthcoming edition, not based on my textual reconstruction. I looked into it a bit, and noticed that the variant is not attested by Tertullian or Adamantius Dialogue. I'll copy and paste the relevant sentence from Vinzent's footnote justifying this particular ...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 11:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre
Replies: 70
Views: 1890

Re: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre

If the Marcionite Evangelion is earlier than canonical Luke (which it clearly is), and the two-source hypothesis for the Evangelion is valid I had dinner with Trobisch recently and didn't bring up this point (mostly because I am much more polite in public than I am on board's like this). I really d...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 11:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre
Replies: 70
Views: 1890

Re: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre

My open science book of a half million words details the five hypotheses and offers hundreds of pages of proofs with meticulous word counts, cluster analysis, binomial distributions probabilities, etc. Refute any of the hypotheses or any of the proofs if you can. Hypothesis 2. When Luke has a paral...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 11:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Data Science and the Gospels
Replies: 34
Views: 793

Re: Data Science and the Gospels

I ran a quick search of the lemmatized and morphologically tagged version of Vinzent's Greek Apostolos that I've compiled and which he and I will be co-publishing. I see the bigram πίστις@[^ ]+ Χριστός in Gal 2.16 and Phil 3.9 in both the Apostolos and the canonical Paul. Are there other instances ...
by vocesanticae
Fri May 26, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre
Replies: 70
Views: 1890

Re: Does the lost Gospel Q Exist? | Dr. James McGrath Vs Dr. Mark Goodacre

We are compelled to believe in the existence of Mark, Matthew and Luke because we have manuscripts. Their existence is therefore demonstrable. We do not have manuscripts of Q. When mythicists use similar logic against the existence of Jesus they are met with ridicule. Mark, Matthew, Luke and John w...