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- Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Dating modified by Bernard
Gday all, Thanks Bernard for that response and those details :) For my next experiment I will go with your dating and put it under scrutiny and see if it has any self-contradictions etc. So I changed my datings in line with your comments, sometimes I had to interpret a little. The only license I too...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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A mainstream dating
Gday all, Well, that was fun :) Here now is a more mainstream chronology : 50s Paul : 1Thess., 1&2 Cor., Gal. Rom. Phill, Phil. 66 Hebrews, mentions some Jesus Stories 70 G.Mark 80s Colossians, 1 John, James 80s G.Matthew, G.Luke & Acts 90s Clement, Eph., 2 Thess., 1 Peter 90-100 Didache 100...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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An experiment that failed ...
Gday, Hi ya Kap. Question. You have the composition of the first Gospel at 120. ... I see no mention of Luke or Matthew. I do realize its hard to place an actual date on any of this but would not the Gospels of Luke and Matthew fit into your equation? My experimental dating has evolved considerably ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Gday all, Pauline-texts, or pre-Pauline texts, and pre-synoptic-gospel texts, could have been written before 70 CE , and modified to include or refer to ~70 CE events; and then be further modified/redacted in subsequent generations or centuries, as proposed above. Quite possible - How dangerous! Tha...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:28 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Gday, It seems there was lots of scriptures, texts, epistles (or whatever) that were 'modified'/redacted; and these modifications were later 'modified'/redacted - it all seems to be layer-upon-layer-upon-layer: 'cumulative elaboration' . I think that is the answer to many a problem - and it's hardly...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Thread summary so far
Gday all, So here is a summary of where we stand from a broad-brush view. Initially, I started an thread trying deliberately to put the Gospel as LATE as possible. There is much opposition to this idea - especially internal evidence. Secondly, Blood put Paul LATE : c 125 Apostolikon of Marcionites c...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Gday Stephan, You've covered some ground since yesterday, here I am just summarising your points : There is no evidence I know of which could be used to suggest that the Marcionites thought Paul or the apostles was written in any period after 70 CE. .. But the bottom line is that a date of sometime ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Hello Gospels and Goodbye Epistles
Gday all, Here is a stupid idea. Could evangelic and apostolic have something to do with 'coming' and 'going' in the original canon? ... We can see Philo use the verb εὐαγγελίζομαι - to bring glad tidings - throughout his writings. For instance the rising of the seven stars of the Pleiades are said ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Gday, Hi Kapyong... before I chime in on Aristides let me ask you this... how would you rate your familiarity with Greek and Latin? I can only read Greek letters (fairly well), but know only a few words - when it comes to the Greek I usually resort to on online Interlinear Greek Version : http://www...
- Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Aristides on the Gospel being new in 138-161
Gday all, One of the clues to Gospel datings which has always puzzled me, but seems to get little attention, is Aristides. The Christians, then, trace the beginning of their religion from Jesus the Messiah; and he is named the Son of God Most High. And it is said that God came down from heaven, and ...