Biblical Criticism & History Forum - earlywritings.com

Gday all, For ease of reference here is Bernard on Clement 15:1 : a) In 1Clement15:1, we have: οὗτος ο λαος τοις χειλεσιν με τιμα η δε καρδια αυτων πορρω απεστιν απ εμου "For said in a certain place, "This people honours Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me." A similar w...

Gday all, to Hawthorne, Did you read what I wrote on the topic? More so the few lines here: http://historical-jesus.info/gospels.html and search for > 1Clement15:1 < I have a new specific thread on this topic (dating of the Gospels etc.), please direct your attention there : http://earlywritings.com...

Gday, Are you relying on 'internal' "evidence" when you say " 50s - Paul : 1Thess., 1&2 Cor., Gal., Rom., Phill., Phil. - no historical detail" Paul and Hebrews - both have stories about a Jesus Christ ; and Paul says his gospel about Jesus Christ came from ?? Do we have exte...

Gday Blood, Thanks for your chronology, it's interesting, if somewhat different to mine. I note you don't have Paul and the pseudo-Pauls on it, perhaps you could slot them in. Here are some comments : 0-100 Sayings and Stories of a celestial Jesus are created (from 'visions' and the Tanakh) but none...

Gday Kunigunde Kreuzerin, But in the Gospel of Mark, you can see that Mark particularly emphasized the word "οὗτος". Mark used the word "οὗτος" 12 times. At no point, the word has only its “normal” meaning. It is only at key points. So it would be obvious that Mark changed the wo...

Gday, I'm answering this one here as it relates to the dating of the Gospels. Firstly, here is the background English version of the Greek argument, as best I can translate being a non Greek speaker: LXX has : " The people this ..." Mark has " This the people ", along with "...

Gday MrMacSon, Hi Kapyong; 1. What texts or evidence points to " 50s-70s Sayings and Stories of a celestial Jesus are created from (from 'visions' and the Tanakh) "? 2. Are the early references to Jesus per se , or a similar name; or Christ (or a variation of Christ, such as 'Chrestus'?). ...

Gday MrMacSon, Hi Kapyong; 1. What texts or evidence points to "50s-70s Sayings and Stories of a celestial Jesus are created (from 'visions' and the Tanakh)"? I am thinking about Paul and Hebrews - both have stories about a Jesus Christ that can arguably be placed in the heavens, as Carrie...

Gday all, Rather than de-rail the thread on Carrier's OHJ, I thought this subject might benefit from a thread of its own. The external record suggest a late arrival of the Gospels. Here is my expanded chronology including many documents that help to show the evolution of the Gospel : 50s-70s Sayings...

Gday Neil, Tertullian's explanation ( On the Flesh of Christ ) for the Apellean belief in how Jesus acquired his flesh though not born of a woman: They allow that Christ really had a body. Whence was the material of it, if not from the same sort of thing as that in which He appeared? Whence came His...