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- Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On the division Above and Below the Moon
Gday, to Kapyong, Who do you know, before Doherty, described the air as the realm of FLESH, or part of the realm of FLESH? Well, consider these quotes from the ancients who divided the sphere into two categories : Above the Moon Below the Moon In the lowest Sphere the Moon revolves illumined by the ...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On AofI - reaching earth and being crucified
Gday Bernard, BTW, AofI does not say the Beloved does not reach earth or he was crucified by demons anywhere. But it doesn't clearly say he DID reach earth either - that is frustatingly unclear from the differences in the MSS. As to the second point he was clearly hung on a tree by the god of this w...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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Poor in Power - comparing probabilities
Gday, Where did you read "poor in power" in 2 Cor 8:9? I am arguing it is there by context if we have assumed mythicism. Carrier's new method is to assume each in turn - historicism and mythicism - and evaluates the evidence to ascertain the probability that it would look that way given ea...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
- Replies: 887
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The Fleshly lower heaven where Christ was crucified
Gday, BTW, the air is not known for his flesh. Earth does. But that's where you're wrong - the realm below the firmament is the realm of flesh, of corruption, of change : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SfATvMn-tjA/UhQ1P5jAQFI/AAAAAAAAADM/C--MufLr3AU/s1600/ChristianSpheres.jpg The Air Beneath the Moon, or...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On the free and slave women in Paul
Gday Bernard, So, the cosmic Jesus would get his body from a David's sperm and, according to Carrier OHJ, pp577-582, On Born of Woman', from the allegorical Hagar: "Jesus was momentarily born to the allegorical Hagar" Makes sense to me - this happened in the realm of 'flesh', the Air Benea...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On God's celestial Sperm Bank
Gday Bernard, I certainly know about the passage and its context: "you" refers to David, "his" refers to Solomon, and the "throne" refers to the Davidic dynasty. Solomon may be the first choice, but it's not impossible that a pesher interprets this as being the Messiah ...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On Made of Woman being an allegory
Gday, I don't think it's far fetched at all, Paul states specifically that the women are allegories - what more do you want ? No, Paul introduced the women as real ones before starting his allegory (using these two women in it). Paul, as a Jew, was not about considering biblical persons described be...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On the ascension of Isaiah
Gday Bernard, Gosh, mythicists like Doherty & Carrier send the gospels and Acts in the thrash bin but they consider highly corrupted "Ascension of Isaiah", most likely christianized after the gospels, as their gospel, quasi-canonical. That's a bit unfair - Gospel and Acts are not sent ...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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On Jesus being poor and humble
Gday Bernard, Doubtful Historicities : 2 4) He was a minister to Jews (Ro 15:8). 5) He was poor, in poverty (2 Cor 8:9) and "humble" (Php 2:8). Why doubtful historicity: Why would a human being on earth ministering the Jews be less likely than an heavenly deity doing it from heaven? Why be...
- Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
- Replies: 887
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On the reliability of Paul's writings
Gday, Is it not first, incumbent on us to verify the legitimacy of our sources, before commencing with a laborious and detailed assessment of this or that nuance, regarding a word, some word which an author may have expressed or which may have been inserted by a redactor? What is the provenance of '...