Biblical Criticism & History Forum - earlywritings.com

I don't know of other words to describe what the Doherty-Carrier hypothesis proposes - that there was originally a celestial being who was worshipped by a sect of Jews as the son of god who was subsequently put into a historical setting for unknown reasons, but never actually existed as a human per...

Where does it imply that? Hebrews 9, as per my post above: Hebrews 9: [24] For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: [25] Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the ...

Taken from another thread: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1018&p=22671#p22671 I have seen the mistaken interpretations of euhemerism...i do think Carrier is using the term correctly. Euhemeros provided historical backgrounds for purely mythological beings. Carrier actuall...

I do think the strongest element of Carrier's argument is that the earthly temple sacrifices are imperfect reflections of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus. I also think that the sacrifice of Jesus may not have been recent or even part of time (maybe at the start of time) and is only now (at the time ...

Perhaps Carrier meant the offerings were presented in the celestial temple? It does seem that Carrier is mixing up where the sacrifice was made and where the sacrificial offerings were presented . On earth, the sacrifices were made outside the temple and then the blood offerings carried into it; th...

To anyone with Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus": Have you found anything in the book that Carrier uses as positiive evidence for Jesus dying in "outer space" in early Christian writings other than the Ascension of Isaiah? I've gone through it twice now, and I can'...

To anyone with Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus": Have you found anything in the book that Carrier uses as positiive evidence for Jesus dying in "outer space" in early Christian writings other than the Ascension of Isaiah? I've gone through it twice now, and I can't...

Kapyong wrote:I think all my examples refer to the Upper Heavens.

Thanks for the confirmation, Kapyong. If you ever come across any that reflect copies between earth and the lower heavens, I would be very interested in hearing those.

What can we learn from all that ? * The theme of the earthly being a copy of the heavenly is found as early as the 1st century. * This theme is repeated by various writers, especially the heavenly Jerusalem idea. * At least one group apparently saw the earthly Christ as a copy of a Christ Above The...

Hi all, I have a problem with using the term "Outer Space." Wikipedia tells us "The term outer space was used as early as 1842 by the English poet Lady Emmeline Stuart-Wortley in her poem "The Maiden of Moscow".[28] The expression outer space was used as an astronomical ter...