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by GakuseiDon
Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

Note that the S/L versions explicitly state the form that the Beloved takes in each level. It states that the Beloved had the form of creatures in the firmament when in the firmament; and had the form of creatures in the air when the Beloved descended into the air from the firmament. So where would...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

I want to rewind to the narrow form of the argument presented by GakuseiDon in the Bible and Interpretation thread and also upthread . I am going to try to summarize the argument there as: words translated as "in your form" in English appear in AoI 9:13 that Carrier somehow missed this ph...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

The text has "descend to the firmament and to that world ." Wouldn't "that world" include the earth? No, I don't read it like that. I think it's just an example of scriptural repetition - like the donkey, even a colt the foal of a donkey. So I read this as saying : Descend to th...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

Hi Kapyong, Thanks for taking the time to look through my evaluation. Just on one point: Reading through this confusing document (the AoI), here is what I see : Firstly, in 10.7 we hear the command to Jesus: Go and descend through all the heavens, descend to the firmament and to that world, even to ...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NHC 6.8: Hermes, Asclepius and the "great Daimon"
Replies: 7
Views: 4209

Re: NHC 6.8: Hermes, Asclepius and the "great Daimon"

I think you will find the changes already made in the translation of this Asclepius text, and in the Gospel of Judas, reflect the need to leave the term in its classical interpretation as provided by (2). This may not be an error as such - perhaps an inconsistency is the better term. However such s...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NHC 6.8: Hermes, Asclepius and the "great Daimon"
Replies: 7
Views: 4209

Re: NHC 6.8: Hermes, Asclepius and the "great Daimon"

AFAIK, "demon" and "daimon"/"daemon" are transliterations of the same Greek word. So "demon" is not an "error in the English translation", as you put it, but a spelling preference. I'm not sure what your concern is there?
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ancient Cosmology: Many Heavens, Gods and the One [God]
Replies: 83
Views: 65011

Re: Ancient Cosmology: Many Heavens, Gods and the One [God]

Well, I'm not sure the dust has settled on that yet. On the one hand, GakuseiDon has shown that 'in your form' was probably present in the original, but the text is so mangled, it's hard to be sure of anything. So, all-in-all, I've backed off to a stance of 'not sure'. Hi Kapyong, I've just posted ...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Crucifixion in the firmament?

In OHJ, Carrier writes on page 41 that "My perspective on this document [Ascension of Isaiah] has been inspired by the analysis in Earl Doherty, Jesus: Neither God nor Man". That's interesting, because Carrier seems to make the same mistake that Doherty made in J:NGNM, as I explained earl...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

Probably best at this point that we go over Carrier's reasons for the need to reconstruct an earlier version of the S/L texts, to see how strong they are. Anyone willing to do this? I'm happy to do this, but won't have time to get to it for a few days. (Probably best to be done by someone who suppo...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?
Replies: 240
Views: 196150

Re: Did Jesus Die in Outer Space?

You're a tool, John T. I've reported your post.