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To TedM: I'm not sure I follow your question. Josephus writes about "impostors", in plural, under Felix, for instance. But only a few of those during the first century does he write extensively about, and names. With regard to"the Egyptian": he is one of the messianic rebel lead...

TedM wrote: Are there any other unnamed messianic figures, prophets, leaders described such as we see by Josephus in relation to the Egyptian and in the Slavonic account of the 'wonder-doer'? I see that as a highly unusual thing, but maybe it isn't..? Josephus of course writes about other messianic...

Are there any other unnamed messianic figures, prophets, leaders described (such as we see by Josephus in relation to the Egyptian and in the Slavonic account of the 'wonder-doer')? I see that as a highly unusual thing, but maybe it isn't..? You see what as "a highly unusual thing"? To an...

Are there any other unnamed messianic figures, prophets, leaders described such as we see by Josephus in relation to the Egyptian and in the Slavonic account of the 'wonder-doer'?

I see that as a highly unusual thing, but maybe it isn't..?

TedM wrote: Actually I asked for an alternative explanation for the time-shift that is more 'innocent in nature'. IOW, instead of intentionally disguised actual history by the NT authors, is there room for actual history that was 'unintentionally disguised' by them, which perhaps started out as ini...

When it comes to the actual time-shift, that does require some elaborate manipulation of history. You ask for an explanation. Actually I asked for an alternative explanation for the time-shift that is more 'innocent in nature'. IOW, instead of intentionally disguised actual history by the NT author...

MrMacSon wrote: "if the authors of the Gospels read and used Josephus, they would have had to do so after 94 AD/CE (to have used Antiquities)." Sure, there may be ignorance, or forgetfulness, involved. But they are obviously not using Josephus as their only source. They have their own age...

The point being made in this Slavonic Josephus story is that the 'wonder-doer' figure is not a revolutionary, not a zealot type figure. This is miles away from the Josephan figure of the Egyptian. Yes, many people wanted the 'wonder-doer' figure to defeat the Romans - but the Slavonic Josephus figu...

:x Hi Lena, Interesting discussion. I decided to go back and re-read the Slavonic Josephus passages about Jesus. There are a number of interesting parallels to Josephus' Egyptian here worth noting. I'm curious if you have given much analysis to the controversial passage? I've bolded and colored a fe...

1. the creedal material doesn't reflect anything Paul wrote elsewhere in any way, so not by Paul; Yes, it is unique to the rest of what Paul writes. 2. he ruled out other sources than god in Gal 1:11-12—he did not receive the gospel from human sources, nor was he taught it—, so not from others befo...