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Ok, noted that you refuse to address the obvious chronology I pointed out, as it relates to the so-called chiasm. Not good. Noted also that you ignore the obvious need for Paul to appeal to the reason for their original faith. Again, not good.

.. You don't preach that 49 people got killed in Orlando a few days ago. You do not preach the earth is round. You do not preach things which are well evidenced and fully accepted. This may be, but I would not call the description in 3-11 as 'well evidenced and fully accepted'. At the 'miracle of t...

Could I lend you a decent dictionary for the word "explain"? It requires sense. You've said nothing coherent on the subject, adding nothing substantive from your first attempt in this thread. I did say something coherent and you ignored it. Breaks in chiasms are wonderful things. They sho...

I wouldn't call it rearguard hopefulness though. I would. The core of this thread is just one piece of evidence, the chiasm, and you are not talking to that piece. You are just rehearsing old, tired efforts, when there are numerous other problems, I could have rehearsed. I already addressed the chi...

That is a great point, Ted, and I hope that it is addressed: This "we" objection thingy has been dealt with before. It is nothing new. It is just the sort of rearguard hopefulness we see here in this thread. When Paul talks of "we" in a preaching context in Corinthians, he is re...

to TedM, Context matters. The previous verse (11) is: 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. So 'is preached' is not problematic at all. The verse is very problematic because: a) "preach" can hardly allude to the alleged many factual visions of the resurrected...

to TedM, About your first paragraph: 12 And if Christ is preached , that out of the dead he hath risen, how say certain among you, that there is no rising again of dead persons? If 1 Cor 15:3-11 is not an interpolation, I would expect other words than "is preached". More something like &q...

Hi Bernard, Yes, Paul is telling them why the Resurrection is important--because of the several implications of disbelief in the idea that man can rise from the dead. He isn't trying to tell them that they are wrong, but he is trying to tell them how absolutely vital it is that they not believe that...

Secret Alias wrote:Why is it so hard for people to believe that massive rewriting of the holy writings of the Christians took place. The pagans said it happened (Celsus),

Can someone provide a link for this please?

Nothing there, TedM, but assertions. There is no question in vv.3-7 that Christ has been raised. That makes all the ifs useless. "If Christ has not been raised then we are running in vain.... Hang on. You just said hundreds of people witnessed him raised." Oh, never mind. It's all too str...