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Thanks for posting this interesting material. Is there anything in the Preaching of Peter that on the surface appears to contradict your view--ie where Peter appears to be talking about a Jesus that he knew personally?

Interesting. Thanks. I would agree that listing them in order of 'best' to 'worst' is intentional, but I don't think that means anything in terms of whether he is intending to tell a historical or fictional story. I think the prophecy/foreshadowing intention makes more sense had the phrase been 'who...

you got me, this is something I read and it sounded authoritative but has been a while.

Thanks Solo. I question whether the list was added later for 2 reasons: First, I notice that Luke, who mentions the disciples earlier still has that 'one of the twelve' in the passion chapters. If he did that, who is to say that Mark didn't do the same thing (ie was working from a basic passion scri...

Judas comes from 'Judah' doesn't it? I've heard it said that Judas may represent all of Judiasm. IE the Jews (Judas) betrayed Jesus. OTOH, Judas was a common name at the time. Iscariot has been interpreted various ways but to me the most persuasive is that it refers to a town in Judah. That GJohn, w...

I would agree that listing them in order of 'best' to 'worst' is intentional, but I don't think that means anything in terms of whether he is intending to tell a historical or fictional story. I think the prophecy/foreshadowing intention makes more sense had the phrase been 'who was going to later b...

Mark 3:16 NASb: [quote}And He appointed the twelve: Simon (to whom He gave the name Peter), 17 and James, the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James (to them He gave the name Boanerges, which means, “Sons of Thunder”); 18 and Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and J...

You (Ted) start with the assumption that the story is historical. But let's leave that off the table for the moment. Let's start with the fact that the gospel narrative represents a myth (a narrative can be both or just a myth) developed for some social purpose. That social purpose was certainly ex...

I don't see how any of this relates to a bottom line for the mythicism debate. Sorry. Are you saying that the mythicists are missing the idea that if there was a human Jesus then it only makes sense that he would have to become portrayed as God since that was necessary to explain why the Law had end...

I can't follow your point here. Are you saying this?: Because the Jewish people had to have a reason for God to have allowed the temple to be destroyed in the 1st century, they came up with one, a supernatural non-human Jesus who predicted the temple fall and was seen as the replacement for the need...