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by ABuddhist
Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 36
Views: 10007

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

Have you considered that Secret Mark (or an authentic text with similar content) may explain other puzzling passages in GMark, such as the man wrapped in Linen when Jesus was arrested? I take the naked man to be a scriptural reference to Amos 2: "16 And the strong shall find no confidence in p...
by ABuddhist
Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

No it's not, LOL. It's one you invented out of your arse to special plead the Gospels away from counting as biographies The gospel Passion narrative is a pastiche of various prophetic passages. With all due respect, your citing sources for this claim (or linking to where you made citations for this...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

If karavan accuse me of "moving the goal posts" for claiming that citations from Q are not a pre-gospel text explicitly claiming that Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher upon the earth before his death, I have the following response. Citing a text that is neither known to exist nor claimed b...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

As a further point, I would like to defend my citation of wikipedia in researching my responses to karavan's words. I am fully aware that wikipedia has its flaws. But given karavan's unwillingness to provide support for key claims that he has maked to me beyond "O'Neill" and "Dale All...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

It sure is a pity that no person has PMed to me any evidence that karavan has provided any citation of any pre-gospel text explicitly claiming that Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher upon the earth before his death - nor has anyone here even provided to me any evidence that karavan has fulfilled my m...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

Biographies aren't sacred literature. The gospel is a sacred text. Scholars want the gospel to be something 'useful' for their purposes rather than what it is - a historical curiosity. You may find interesting, therefore, the namtar (Tibetan: རྣམ་ཐར་, Wylie: rNam-thar), sometimes spelled namthar: a...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Q is not a legitimate pre-gospel Christian text for claiming that Jesus was anything
Replies: 5
Views: 1674

Why Q is not a legitimate pre-gospel Christian text for claiming that Jesus was anything

The root of the problem with relying upon Q to prove anything about Jesus is that it does not survive, nor is it attested from patristic or similar sources. Rather, it is a hypothetical document, dating from the 19th century, created in order to explain material found within both of GLuke and GMatth...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 36
Views: 10007

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

[The gospel of Judas would also provide a key to another enigmatic verse in Mark 4: “For whoever has, will be given more, and whoever doesn’t have will have what he has taken away.” (Mk. 4:25). That is, those who have the divine spark will be given spiritual imperishability; those who don’t have it...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

the Gospels are the earliest biographies of Jesus Was the gospel really a biography or an account or a proof of the fulfillment of Jewish prophesy regarding the coming of the messiah according to certain statements contained therein? This is a critical distinction. A biography is principally intere...
by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

Whatever else karavan may have done during the time when e maked eir latest posting within this thread (and being upon my "ignore list", I cannot tell), I note that e has not provided to me through PM a single pre-gospel Christian text explicitly claiming that Jesus was an apocalyptic prop...