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by ABuddhist
Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

As a minor correction to what I writed earlier about Mahayana Buddhism's parallels to Christianity, which I only make in order to deflect potential criticism from karavan, when I referred to "Menandros the Bactrian King", I should have referred more precisely to him as "Menandros the ...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 36
Views: 10007

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

By the way, Neil, when I readed this thread's title, I thought that you were referring to the Christianity as represented by certain second century CE apologists, in which there was (as far as we can tell from their surviving writings), no "Jesus", "Christ", or sacrificial death ...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 294
Views: 78976

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

I note that no person has PMed to me any evidence that karavan has cited a single pre-gospel Christian text explicitly claiming that Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet upon the Earth before his death. If karavan has admitted that no pre-gospel Christian text explicitly claiming that Jesus was an apoca...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The forgotten third Christian movement
Replies: 36
Views: 10007

Re: The forgotten third Christian movement

. . . I'm not saying that every detail of thought between the NT and Justin matches. The NT was created from existing material. That existing material already had various agendas and perspectives. I'm saying that the revisions to the material change it in the same direction as Justin. If you compar...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin and Mark 16:9-20
Replies: 8
Views: 1996

Re: Justin and Mark 16:9-20

If however, as a number of scholars have suggested, Justin knew a Synoptic Gospel harmony (similar to the Diatessaron of his student Tatian but without John) If he did, then whence did he get Jesus's birth in a cave? Surely, such a story, found in none of the 4 canonical gospels, reveals that Justi...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin and Mark 16:9-20
Replies: 8
Views: 1996

Re: Justin and Mark 16:9-20

If however, as a number of scholars have suggested, Justin knew a Synoptic Gospel harmony (similar to the Diatessaron of his student Tatian but without John) If he did, then whence did he get Jesus's birth in a cave? Surely, such a story, found in none of the 4 canonical gospels, reveals that Justi...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gary Goldberg's new article on the Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 9
Views: 2735

Re: Gary Goldberg's new article on the Testimonium Flavianum

Richard Carrier being the notable exception, if you count him as an academic, which I do Well, whatever his conduct and his theories, Dr. Carrier has a Ph. D. and has published peer-reviewed material, so I see no problem regarding him as an academic. Even if he be motivated by anti-religious bigotr...
by ABuddhist
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gary Goldberg's new article on the Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 9
Views: 2735

Re: Gary Goldberg's new article on the Testimonium Flavianum

Gary Goldberg has published a new argument for his thesis that Josephus' Testimonium Flavianum is dependent on a Christian source also preserved in the Emmaus story in Luke 24 in The Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus (2021): Abstract The controversial account of Jesus in Josephus’s Jewi...
by ABuddhist
Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question about Earl Doherty's arguments about Christian apologists
Replies: 10
Views: 2714

Re: Question about Earl Doherty's arguments about Christian apologists

I think a case can be made that Justin Martyr's Apologies and even his Dialogue with Trypho preceded orthodox Christianity. What Justin knew and how he knew it is not clear. Indeed, but Justin Martyr is different from the second century apologists whom I mentioned in my OP because he talks about &q...
by ABuddhist
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 10:20, “they sacrifice to demons”
Replies: 60
Views: 17646

Re: 1 Cor 10:20, “they sacrifice to demons”

I’m also not sure why an epistle to the Corinthians would refer to contemporary practice in Jerusalem, about which his church would know little or nothing. With all due respect, why assume this? A common assumption among scholars of Christian origins (regardless of their views about Jesus) is that ...