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- Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
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Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
Jesus from the start of gMark is based on Paul's Christology ... [...] Jesus is declared Son of God after the Spirit descends on him at his baptism by JohnB, whereas Jesus is declared Son of God by the Holy Spirit at the Resurrection [...] Also, what do you mean by Jesus's divinity is "allegor...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
- Replies: 21
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Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
The difference is that Jesus is declared Son of God after the Spirit descends on him at his baptism by JohnB... The Markan author(s) used a literary technique to explain why the temple failed and to explain why cult members are baptized—thereby becoming fictive kin to God, Jesus and to all the othe...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know?
- Replies: 122
- Views: 4260
Re: What do we know?
A correct formula uses conditional probability. [...] Conditional probability is explained in every introductory book on probability... Screenshot 2024-08-25 at 11-20-09 (2) Dr. Richard Carrier's lecture in Bangor Maine The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus - YouTube.png -- "Dr. Richard ...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know?
- Replies: 122
- Views: 4260
Re: What do we know?
Per the OP: [W]hat facts do we actually know ... In Chapters 4 and 5 of Historicity I enumerate 48 “Elements” as basic facts of background knowledge (some of which are modal facts, i.e. facts about what is plausible rather than definite) that are true regardless of whether Jesus existed --Carrier (1...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Jewish God = Satan
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1072
Re: The Jewish God = Satan
Elements of the New Testament concerning Satan may have roots in Jewish theology prior to the religious syncretism with Zoroastrian. **The Concept of Evil** **Pre-Zoroastrian Judaism:** While not as fully developed as in later Zoroastrianism, the idea of evil as a force opposed to God was present in...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Problem with historicism
- Replies: 27
- Views: 17822
Re: Problem with historicism
Getting Syncretism Wrong "Yahweh isn’t a syncretism with Baal. Yahweh is an evolution of Baal." Getting Syncretism Wrong The Jews actually were Canaanites . They then wrote stories claiming to be from somewhere else to justify their genocide of neighboring Canaanite tribes. Yahweh keeps m...
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
- Replies: 21
- Views: 824
Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
The Jesus in John is [a man] . . . already the Son of God. The Jesus in Mark is [a man] . . . becoming Son of God by adoption. Two different Jesuses. John is historicizing Jesus’s divinity. Mark allegorized it. [...] John is the first to insist everything he says is literally, historically true. [....
- Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
- Replies: 21
- Views: 824
Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
In gMark he becomes Son of God by adoption via baptism by John the Baptist. In gMark Jesus does not become a new Son of God by adoption via baptism. Jesus from the start of gMark is based on Paul's Christology, however the Markan author obscures this from the reader. Jesus’s divinity is allegorized...
- Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
- Replies: 21
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Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
The Jesus in Mark is a man, with parents and brothers and sisters. Jesus in Mark never behaves like a human: even when he isn’t doing works of wonder, he is acting very strangely compared to any real person; moreover, he is a supernatural being from the very start, parting the very heavens, defeati...
- Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
- Replies: 21
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Re: Under 10 conditions the Markan priority is a good theory
IF you think that Mark wasn't minimally embarrassed by a Jesus moral monster repudiating real parents standing really there out, then the Markan priority is a good theory. To what verse(s) in Mark does this refer? [Jesus tears] families apart ( Mk. 10:29-30 ). He never unites or reconciles any fami...