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- Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3220
Re: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
Was Isaiah a historical figure, was Jeremiah - or were they, like Jesus, literary figures created to retell historical events from within a salvation theology or philosophy ? I would suggest that such an approach to the gospel Jesus story has more going for it than simplicity. A possible historical...
- Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3220
Re: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
Take the partake of the sower, the mustard seed, anything from the triple tradition: 80% of what they share is verbatim, 10% has a different tense, a prefix to a verb or a suffix, a different declension - it is all copy paste. Should that datum be catalogued as a topic of the " Intertextual pr...
- Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3220
Re: The fallacy of the "newspaper reporter's" Jesus
The funny thing is that the title of this thread led me to think that GD was going to be making the opposite case. Because it has long been historicists who have claimed that the Gospel writers were like newspaper reporters. What mainstream "biblical scholars", i.e. theologians, have long...
- Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Robyn Faith Walsh on the secrecy in Mark
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1260
Re: Robyn Faith Walsh on the secrecy in Mark
I'm not so sure. Odysseus was consistent in his efforts to hide his identity but Jesus slips up repeatedly. Wrede's thesis explained that inconsistency but the inconsistency is hard to understand if the secrecy was in imitation of Odysseus. Originally second-god kept his identity secret in order to...
- Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:23 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Basic reason why Mark is NOT marcionite
- Replies: 52
- Views: 7058
Re: Basic reason why Mark is NOT marcionite
Mark's gospel is right-wing anti-Marcionist because it explicitly identifies the Father with the Creator, even where the Matthean parallel doesn't. No other reason is inecessary for seeing the Mk is not Marcionite by any stretch whatsoever. This proves once more the absolute falsity of Markan Prior...
- Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: PZ Myers's anti-mythicist censorship
- Replies: 6
- Views: 817
Re: PZ Myers's anti-mythicist censorship
What is new is only the use of Internet for his diffusion, so really PZ fears the complexity of the Internet more than mythicism. Earl Doherty like Prometheus (who is best known for defying the gods by giving knowledge to humanity) published the magazine article: "The Jesus Puzzle: Part One: A...
- Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3124
Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions
No letter of that fictional phantasm named Pazul exists; those abstrusely assigned to one chimerous Paul are all impious forgery and late piecemeal. Naive apologists are notoriouslty unable to see that simple and straightforward truth. Is it possible that some small amount of original material was ...
- Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3124
Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Paul is one of the most idiosyncratic and mystifying writers in the entire western canon, as such arguments from his silence are entirely specious. No one knows why Paul did or didn't write something. Per "Paul is one of the most idiosyncratic and mystifying writers in the entire western canon...
- Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: PZ Myers's anti-mythicist censorship
- Replies: 6
- Views: 817
Re: PZ Myers's anti-mythicist censorship
PZ Myers writes, “…the most reasonable explanation for the start of Christianity, only weirdly deluded fanatics argue otherwise.” @ "I had to say what I think of Jesus Mythicism". Pharyngula . 25 December 2022. The less obvious problem an early date for 1 Clement creates is that it means w...
- Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark was Marcion's Gospel?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 807
Re: Mark was Marcion's Gospel?
"In Mark particularly -- which in some of its aspects may be closer to Marcion's evangelion than Luke — the motif of the apostles’ disbelief remains central..." Hoffmann, R. Joseph (2016). Marcion: On the Restitution of Christianity: An Essay on the Development of Radical Paulinist Theolo...