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Another useful website about proto-Islam:

http://www.lemessieetsonprophete.com/an ... dex_en.htm
http://www.lemessieetsonprophete.com

That's how they made Mohammed: through substitution. They did it in two phases. 1. 7th and 8th centuries AD: they took Jesus and called him "praiseworthy" ("muhammad"). That's proto-Mohammed. 2. 9th century AD and later: Ibn Hisham and/or Tabari wrote the full-fledged Mohammed st...

Mohammed comes from Jesus.

http://www.inarah.de/cms/vom-muhammad-j ... -teil.html
http://www.inarah.de/cms/vom-muhammad-j ... raber.html

True or not?

But these were overcome in the fourth century. The example of Edessa and Osroene and Armenia and later Persia all point to the ultimate triumph of Nicene Christianity. There was no monarchianism before trinitarianism? http://www.inarah.de/cms/das-qsanctus-qder-messe-und-qmohammedq.html Dort wurde b...

It turns out Luxenberg's Syro-Aramaic reading also works with some Hebrew texts:

http://2013.inarah.de/index.php?id=138

The more I look at the evidence the more I see the exact opposite - i.e. that Christianity, under the pressure of the Imperial 'cosmocrator' cult in the late second/early third century was coerced by the Roman authorities and 'good society' (i.e. philosophers, thinkers etc) brought pressure to bear...

spin wrote:All you've done so far is ignore the o.p. to push some hobby horse, which has nothing to do with christianity's contribution to western civilization.

Why do you frame the conflict between Franks and Arabs as interreligious?

What is wrong with the status quo analyses of the emergence of Islam? These articles by Ibn Warraq will give you an idea: http://www.inarah.de/cms/historical-methodology-and-dogmatic-islamophilia.html http://www.inarah.de/cms/some-aspects-of-the-history-of-koranic-criticism.html The main problem is...

Mohammed never existed.

Sorry, you want a serious reaction to the assertion that muslims were christians? Yes. Especially if it's the 7th and 8th centuries AD. They were followers of Syriac Christianity. Moreover, Mohammed comes from the Syriac Jesus. I want you to take Inarah seriously. They have the best explanation I'v...